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You know, it's not like we're changing anyone's mind here, but there's no need to get all pissy and insulting about things. C'mon, I think it's about beer thirty

Inasmuch as they are tools used to divide individuals into "us" and "them," Religion and Nationalism are the twin banes of humanity. People don't seem to lack mechanisms for deciding who is less than human and worthy of oppression and death, but Religion has been one of the more effective sorting devices and a ready path to power. Christianity, while successful, has no copyright on this sort of thing. I'm okay with the part where it's a mythology that attempts to explain things people don't understand in a supernatural framework. Like I tell the missionaries when they make the trek up my long driveway, "My people believe we all came from frozen balls of sweat in the armpits of the Frost Giants, what do your people believe?" Stories and archetypes are interesting.

Never give up! Never surrender!

Dave, thanks for the wealth of first hand information and history.

Seems like this sort of thing is all the rage. This is a pretty major trunk road through the Gifford Pinochet forest. source

Arguing about Marylou is so yesterday.

It drove my wife (then girlfriend) nuts to have her sweet five year old son croon along to this Guadalcanal Diary song: One day a rain will come and wash the streets all clean But until that rain appears, the job is mine it seems They're looking for me, everywhere, but I don't know what for Please stop me, before I kill more

Not my pebbles, but no skin off my nose either.

I had a dream the other night that I met a girl who said her name was YaYa, and I told her, "No, I've met YaYa and you are not her."

Nice work

It is a bouldering area, not a cragging destination. Good bouldering in western WA is harder to come by than chuffing, so I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand if I were you.

It's not that hush hush, you will find this link to the online interactive guide in the RC Links thread stickied at the top of the Rock Climbing Forum. Sounds like development is on hold while a plan is negotiated with the Park Service, but climbing existing routes should be fine. If you go, take pictures and tell us stories.

I haven't checked, what actually worries me is the rain prediction for Wednesday. Someone didn't get the memo: rain is not allowed on Wednesdays. I'll give a look tomorrow, but I'm confident if we get a dry day there will be ample routes available. I'm sure it's been more than a dozen years since that route got a redpoint, and I believe only one other person has done that. It's going to be a good season out here.

Unless you're trying to do a speed ascent, then it seems like ethics don't matter, only speed, so even the hard boys nail things that have gone clean. buncha bigwall howeetz if you ask me.

You're off to a great beginning, but this other site will better assist your personal growth in your chosen branch of climbing: boldering.com

Yes CBS, it is a bit lame to use this fellow's misfortune, but what I wrote is essentially what came out of my mouth at 5:48 this morning before I even had my coffee. I just wanted to share what it's like to wake up with me in the morning.

Oh my dear, if only you could see what I see...

Yes, heard about this missing runner on the radio while laying in bed this morning. Turned to my wife and said, "I'm tired of this waste of taxpayer money searching around, the should make runners carry beacons." Really, everyone should have one, in fact, they should be implanted. They could also work as a national identity card. If you implant them just under the skin of the forehead they could be programmed to glow in a variety of colors signifying illegal or simply immoral behavior. I'm pretty sure that beacons would solve everything that's wrong in the world.

Tazz - if you go back and edit your image tags so they end in .jpg instead of that ?v=0 your pictures will show up. I did the first one just to check that it would work. Rule of thumb is that the image file location must end in .jpg (.gif works too I think).

not if they're pre-chewed.

You forgot to mention that you also really want to see The Hold Steady.

Snide, I don't think you're all that new to this place, but Dwayner's not really out of line here, he's really just making somewhat predictable conversation and not writing an epistle. Your venting is rather more over the top. Old clowns are not necessarily cuddly, and the minority report from our old crusty pup is a bit of a tradition anytime those areas crop up in conversation.

It's messy, and it doesn't really work, the seal will always fail at some point. Silicone doesn't adhere all that well to steel anyway. Caulking makes a poor primary waterproofing strategy. Glue in bolts would solve the water issue, but would be a bigger replacement problem with the annual avalanche problem. Best to just carry a wrench.

You know Muffy, some of us just like the pictures and stories, whether it's earthshaking or not. We encourage trip reports in general around here, it's actually what the broadest cross section of users enjoy most. I know plenty of folks would find a story from you about struggling at your own level of climbing, and plenty of others would be happy to hear your TR from the fucking bit. Please note that the board administration does discourage the posting of porn here, so sadly I must suggest the latter trip report not be illustrated.

Hah, I wrestled a sheep, top that!