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the 2 options are: 1) climb where there are no cracks - this requires drilling and bolting, which angers many or 2)removing dirt, debris and vegeatation from the cracks, which angers many

WWJD? what would jack (kerouac) do?

that was me - the branches i was snapping off werent' green but dead - the climbing managment plan says you can't kill trees, so i don't - i like trees, they make nice anchors n' pro points (you might have noticed if you took the whole scene in that i had slung that tree to keep me alive )- anyhow, i wasn't going through the tree, but left of it - it's a problem if the dead gnarled branches are grabbing you as you go past come climb sometime, espeically at beacon - its a balance - you remove what needs to go and leave the rest alone sorry if you thought i was pissing on gaia - she actually my girlfriend you might be intersted to know the entire east face of the rock is closed to prtoect various shrubs n' flowers n' trees, as is the south side for fornicating birds for half the year, plus most of the west face - the n side is what we climbers get this time of year, and the whole thing is coated in green stuff, a thin line which must be cut to pass through - how many trees got the chop for the w side trail do you think?

actually layton has the gold standard turd-based tr - check it out, could it have been his first TR? shit, he peaked early

you can write a tr 'bout anything so long as it features the skillful use of colorful vernacular (cocksuckaaa!!!)

sunday is famb-iwy day - forced march cross country to albertson's maybe?

where's yer tr's dawg? show us how it's done!

spent the whole day climbing on bacon

so...the republican party n' the evil forces of conservatism were responsible for 8-ball's maniac-depression? this story is beneath you...move on!

a fine post-zombie apocalypse hideout fo'shizzle!

whateva - dude was crazy first, then was attracted to right-wingism 'cuz ya know, its a big tent

That's nice JH. That way YOU controll everything. uh, kev, he said pick a spokesperson, and he wasn't volunteering

wrong thread bill - you want yer bipartisanship in the gay replicants thread

rockfall (inevitable) from up there will land in the p-lot and on tourons - climbing on that side has to be climbers right of the fountain - once you go 'round that corner the rockfall gets funneled into the woods that said, just single pitch off the ground above the faucet would be awesome, and was bolted once, but hte Man's been adament about it just duck into the woods - plenty of stuff to do there seige tactics and headspace are particuliarly fine routes, and dry too in the pouring rain

he did the first free ascent of right gull! uber-classic beacon route! strongly recomend it to you tyler if you ever come down here - you can finish to the top via my new hibernal hijinx (or riverside) he's listed w/ the first complete ascent of dod's, but the upper part of that route blows donkeys fa of free for all - the best 5.8 crack at beacon didn't see any other credits for him in the olson guide, but hell those are 3 stellar, super-classic beacon routes, so !

really? whaaaat? don't have a guide near me n' my drunk n' tired (beacon rawwwwked 2night!)

hbo did a whole documentary on the phenemona - talk about folks not voting their interest! "maybe if i go republican it will cure my gayness!"

what is this lidar that you speak of?

mine i make also w/ sugar, fresh minced garlic, black olives and banana peppers - bread machines rule, like your own little chinaman in a closet

since when did you need a smoking gun to know the litte man always gets fawked by the Big Man? that document on state recs is hardly all on our side - i read it such that it might justify the climbing trail closure and perhaps any of the routes above big ledge

doesn't soudn like rocket-science to me - simple observation? - they're big enough and bold enough birds to make it clear when they're unhappy - there are stories of climbers elsewhere being buzzed by them when they get too close - other signs (if you read the document justin linked to) included abandoning the egg/chick - don't think anyone's looking for a perfect system either, just one that takes care of both the birds and the people w/o too much unhappiness for either

it didn't sound like the birds were scared of doing their thing either when folks where in the n-hood back in the day during their fornicating-season

that about covers my logic for climbing too....

huh? maybe you just don't know how to cook w/ spices n' stuff?

interesting bits from the second link: "The birds are sensitive to disturbance during all phases of the nesting season (1 March through 30 June)" - so why close all of february and linger halfway into july when that's the recommendation? for kevbone and his trail complaint: "Where falcon nests are already established in proximity to humans there is no need to eliminate trails, picnic grounds, or other facilities except where the birds are evidently disturbed by the human activities." this sure as hell isn't being followed: "Aircraft should not approach closer than 500 m (1,640 ft) above a nest"