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I doubt we disagree as much as you might think. I also think the bolt-ons suck and the "artwork" at the base is inexcusable. If someone pulled that shit in Leavenworth, I would quickly make it disappear. I certainly wouldn't be grand standing for months on a website and make threats to multiple areas. There is a community whether you recognize it or not, just as the offenders should have used better judgement so should you. Neither side to this "debate" is representing the interests of climbers as a whole. Start training, lose some weight, and put up some new routes in the style you prefer, this would be a constructive way to lead by example.

Geez Dane, slow down and articulate what you are trying to say. Your gibberish makes no sense. I can almost see the foam emitting from the corners of your mouth. Now hold on a minute Dane. This is bullshit. Do you really want to be responsible for possibly screwin up access to so many climbing areas that will effect many climbers, far beyond those responsible for the atrocities at Dishman. You were at the WCC meeting last night, you know what's at stake around the state. This is not the answer. Chill out. Do what you need to do to your old routes but then move on. Your threats are childish and will only do harm to the rest of the climbing community and we don't appreciate it.

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A different opinion: Aliens blue thru Purple Camalots-#1 #2 #3 (#3.5 sometimes) DMM walnuts and peanuts- better than any other stoppers! Petzl Rockpecker/Mad Rock hangers- anything a peanut won't fit in. Those Zero things are "toys".

No Thrutch, not right now. It's a bit hot anyhow. We will reschedule, fall will be a better time for that grunt. Let's just hope that damn fire doesn't jump the road or move too far east, that would really suck. Hopefully it won't burn til it snows. Every time one of these things starts it really bums me out. On a lighter note, maybe we can find another Pearly Gates!

Oh, I thought about it. It may be the end of me but I'd be willing...

New boulders? doubtful. Cleaner boulders? Quite possibly, although where it's burning right now there isn't much in the way of boulders. I'd dump a years worth of on it right now if it would extinguish the damn fire.

NOOOOOOO!

Now that I would like to see! Going up would be tough enough but coming down... I just don't think so.

I don't have Mike's book but I think we're talking about the same thing. We did it in July of 2001 and the chute was a frozen 50 degreeish sun cupped ladder. I am not a proficient ice climber and found it mellow without a rope. (although falling is not an option) We did rope back up above the chute. If I was gonna set pro, I think Jayb's gear suggestions are sufficient although I'm not sure how much good an ice screw would be, there was no true ice. We did receive a "deer in the headlights" look or two from a rope team of 3, although they weren't putting any pro in either. I'm not sure what the rope was for other than to drag down the other climbers if one of them fell. We told them they were nearly to the summit when one asked (not even close) as we passed them on the way down. Have fun! * Damn, must say that it didn't look anything like Russ's pic when I was there. Update us when you return. Just checked my pics, I don't have one from July 2001 of the chute.

mmmm bikini tops and ass shots please...

Keep your darn gun talk outta my blissful, I can't wait for winter, thread! (I'm ok with the red neck thing though. ) Insert little snowflake graemlin thingies here. Think snow. Think snow. Think snow.

If I was an avid ice climber instead of a hack the "sick shit" would be even sicker... Screw the backburner. Come January you'll be regreting it... * Alpinfox- you beat me to it, notice the word "hack"...

I'm not sure what ice pitches you refer to... when I did it a few years back we unroped for the chute and hiked up the sun cups. A standard mountain axe was more than sufficient. If your not placing pro, staying roped would only lead to more problems in the event of a fall. Placing pro would take too much time and seems not quite necessary. All depends on your comfort level. It's a great route!

specialed- You're on! That's the main reason I bought it. (wrecked my 2003 RMK this past spring) Of course I am a snowboarder (have a split board) yet ride with primarily skiers. Keeping up has never been an issue... You have a sled up there on the east side? To a long and severe winter...

I just bought the new 2005 900 liberty 50th anniversary Polaris RMK! This sled rocks! The seat is 4" higher. Totally redesigned front suspension, 10 position handlebars, LED altimeter, thermometer, 159" x 2.4" track, slightly lighter than last years 800, better fuel efficiency, computer chip- so no more jetting for different elevations, and oh so much more! BRING ON THE SNOW!!!! * A big fat to those of you who hate snowmobiles.

Leavenworth- Clem's Holler

Barbeque? Dude there's a fire ban. Have at those damn goats though... What up with the upside down photo shizzle?

I merely posted the link, the thanks goes out to Mr Sell.

Cheerios suck... now Fruity Pebbles on the other hand...

try: www.washingtonclimbers.org

SCW can be unbearably hot in Sept. so pick your day and timing well. and Will, please leave your crowbar up north, eh?

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no use hangin at this sideshow.