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Fats's idiot neighbor aside, what's so depressing? A few houses scattered about? for the most part they aren't that distasteful and not super visible. Many would argue the road, not the houses, is what truly messed it up. (Sure would change our access) The Icicle is still a really cool really beautiful place, it could be way worse... certainly not worth abandoning. Now what is depressing is the crater they want to drill in the side of Cashmere, that would really fuck things up. At least the people that live in the Icicle proper are making an effort to stop that.

Fuckin sandbagger... Your buddy Mike L would call it 10+ R/X... of course he's way badass and wouldn't likely repeat someone elses indoor shizzle.

5.8d at best...

You have no idea...

I say: when you're out all day giddy with bliss wondering why no one else is around, you shouldn't care what these clowns have to say. NOLSe- ice climbing is climbing, isn't it?

Ahhh, and once again we get to see Layton's resume Glad to see nothin changes around here. Self-esteem a little low lately mike?

let me guess, while sippin a $6 latte? Save your money and buy some more of them high tech synthetic pants, goat.

Hmmmmmm, Do you have really short feet or a super wide board? All plate binding set-ups I have seen require the angle to be so far forward it compromises stability. Definatley not the best stance for free-riding or BC riding. Unarguably the best on hardpack/ice however. Have had no problem with my Voile skins sticking. I have also found that my 159"x2.4" track makes short work of those longer deeper approaches, no "balling" or "sticking" issues. When is Glissade gonna come out with a split board?!?

Natural, If you like your job you won't recommend that slacker, bitch still has alot of tightening up to do...

Um, uh, Larry what happened did your more popular avatars all get banned? You seem to think you know me or at least something about me but it's obvious you do not. First of all, I was making a sarcastic comment to my close friend/climbing partner bobbyperu, nothing more. Secondly, so there is no confusion, I have never carried a rotohammer into the wilderness. All routes I know of in said area have been established from the ground up and any protection bolts were placed by hand on lead. If you or anyone else has more unsolicited advice/info please get your facts straight before you post publicly. Larry check your PM's.

Tighten up slacker! Shit's all been touched.

I have had great slab success with the Scarpa Marathons. A nice snug, not mind blowingly tight, fit keeps the shoe from rolling on the foot. I have some Montrails (model ?) that I haven't used a lot yet but they seem to be working out all right as well. They're a bit softer and more sensitive than the Marathons. mmmm slab.

Good lookin peak in a great position with killer views. The rock was mediocre at best (not terribly loose but hollow if you knock on it, like Garfield's stone after the slab) but the climbin was ho hum, classic non the less...go back? So much more... 1 day? 2? 3? who cares some people like to enjoy the outdoors not rush to the PC to do a progress report... * Lambone...

Yipes! What was I thinking? .

hmmmm, are you sure? Even if you did, is that really any faster? with all the questionable stone, I would be "pulling" carefully on the holds...

...at least a single ring on every rap, all appeared to be in acceptable shape, although I think rapping repetitively on one aluminum ring is questionable in itself... use single 3/8" chain links, cheaper and far stronger... shy of bolts and chains in better stone, the raps seemed alpine "bomber", almost sport-like...

2 ropes- benefits- half the raps, faster negatives- low angle raps causing tangles, weight, more likely to get stuck rope 1 rope- benefits- lighter, no tangles, less likely to get stuck rope negatives- more raps, slower We used 2 50m 8 mils. Worked well, and closed gap considerably with group using only one 60m for raps. If I did it again () I would use the 2 ropes but carry one while using the other doubled over for simulling. OK climb, very cool spot! * there are rap stations all over the place, "direction" won't be an issue. (east)

Thanx Jon!

New as of about a year ago. Don't know the specific deets but think it's in the mid 11 range. Shizzlekowski might know more...

...there are just better places to go that were unobtainable.

Seems easy enough to me!

and you believe that??? What about the Costco sized building and adjacent visitors center? How about the local tax dollars needed to straighten and widen the Icicle road? What about the crags and boulders we will lose during this construction. I'm sure no one will mind losing access to Hubba Hubba since the entrance is supposed to go directly below one of the more accesible and predictable ice climbs in the area. What about the 2 empty 20' three miles worth of tunnel after the project is completed in 30 years? Where is the necessary water going to come from? DUSEL can not use water from the Icicle, the town already needs it. DUSEL sucks in the Icicle, the negative impacts will far outway the positives. Go somewhere else!

It is a given...haven't we all. No clue who you are. Not really a part of the discussion is it? How about we stick to Dishamn instead of flexing every other post. Dick measuring can be done at home. Reread what you wrote, you're the one who asked. Dane, you are a real dick.

Yes it is. If we made it easier for everyone there would be a fucking wheelchair ramp on el cap by now. Climb the mountain on the mountain's terms; not yours. If you don't have the skills stay in the gym. hypocrite

I fail to see how that is relevant since I'm not the one making threats or bolting on holds, but I'm sure I have done far more than you might think...I prefer to keep what I do to myself and immediate friends. I find this whole discussion depressing, I'm goin climbing...