wayne

Ok , I am of course biased. Maybe to some , ski descents are the purest form? Maybe for Trask, The trolling of this site is the purest form? When I think of the purest form, I go back to Mummery and Tillman and the like, leading (soloing) the first difficult summits in the Alps. I have presented this to people from this site, and have added and changed things with the chart. Your suggestions are appreciated on this work in progress.

So you're a climber? This chart was designed to help students understand the many different sports within the climbing world. I like to compare climbing to track and field. It too has many completely different and unique sports within its parameters to enjoy. It has gone from the early decathlon to the highly specialized sports we see today. The changes in climbing historically have been chronicled well in magazines like these. Who would have thought we would see people being guide up Everest like it was a tourist attraction. After doing the Nose of El Cap myself in three days, I am stunned to see the new speed records shattered continuously. Who knows what this chart will be like in the next 50 years? A part of me wants to rub in the fact that the majority of the Climbing Population is only participating in one or two specific boxes. It is a shame most are missing out on all the wonderful aspects of the broader scale the sport has to offer. It seems most of the people I know however are branching out into other boxes as their finances and experience allows. I have enjoyed nearly all of theses sub-sports immensely over the last 25+ years. I think there is enough there to keep anybody interested and busy year round. Perhaps the only downside is all the money one has to spend to participate safely on a broad scope. All I know is I have my favorites and maybe I will see you this weekend on the next adventure! http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=304&papass=&sort=1&thecat=503

Ok I saved it as a jpg file but when I went to copy , it wouldnt let me paste in the new post.Does it matter that it is 70 K bytes?

No I wasnt refering to the attachment . I sent it to Jon, Maybe he can do something with it? JON you out there?

As long as we are seeking help. I need help posting a paint file on cc. I have tried many ways any suggestions , Please

It is cool, no? When I did it ,it was thin and slightly rotten and unprotectable.Now I cant believe I just called it cool. The E buttress is good too Billy Hunt

Wild man Rat! Nice work. You went solo? I have been wondering about that Bebie rt. Doesnt sound too bad by your account. Would you call it classic?

As you might expect , I have cragged there doing the classic 4 pitch 5.10b center route .They are great crags with tons of potential. The prow routes it will yeild are going to be amazing. Wayne

Grat PC this week! Lots of new faces.

Wow what a web site! This guy has a lot of time on his hands. I hear Stim Bullit has climbed all of the peaks over 8,000 feet !!! THE PICKET 12 !!!

I cant belive we are considering Lelani lanes. Its cool cuz it is right across the street from my place . They have a pub there,but probably not a full bar. Lets see if there is support for the first bowling PC?

Davids comment after summit," I feel like I just climbed f'n Mt Everest. Mine;" One of the best things about the climb is I never have to do it in the future" David" If you had told me what this would be like before the climb, I wouldnt have done it." We are already thinking it wasnt that bad though.After looking at other accounts we got lucky with the snow conditions yet unlucky with the ice. See you at pub Club

It should be icy with the low snow year and all. The thing I remmember most is the approach, it was spectacular! Time to expand your list , though a good one

Great work Colin and Forrest!! It is amazing what good weather will do for this site! I am thinking it is the FWA, but wait till the Becky update comes out. You bagged a trophy FOR SURE if it holds! Cant wait for the pics . I was looking good energy to you guys when we saw it from Colonial!

Amazin. I wanna tr!!

Davids camera battery probably froze up along with my toes,face , fingers, etc. We only got a couple down low.

When the steele cliffs look blue , they are great

That was you guys on Pyramid? Party of three. We were the 2 you saw headed down from Colonial. I posted a tr.I am also the guy you saw on DNB, Bear Mt.

David Parker and I wrenched or way up this amazing climb in a 16 + hour marathon from a camp low in the cirque. We also came all the way out in the dark. There seems to be an unwritten code with the people capable of doing these type of routes. It seems to say dont let em know how hard or commiting the climb is in general. Well.... In this case I will say it is a route not just anyone should jump on. To say it stretched me is an understatement . I simply wasnt that comfortable with the realization that a fall in many places would have been unacceptable or fatal. Maybe we didnt catch it in the best shape either. The crux bulges went rotten at the steepest parts.(verticle,though the book states 70-80 dergrees). I forgot the ice screws ,though they wouldnt have been usefull throught the cruxes. We tended to rock pro when we could excavate them and THANK YOU MICHAEL LAYTON for the use of your picket. I just wished we had borrowed another. Keep this route in mind only when your experience /fitness level is at a high state and be safe always on your adventures , Wayne p.s. Lets hear from the group that was in the pyramid peak area

I think everyone should go there this weekend.

Good work Billy! It is good to see you had the guts to try and the sense to know when to bail. I have looked at that buttress . The rock has very sweet coloring in the summer, It looks like a winter only type deal too. I can say for sure the ice rts on middle ,e face. and sou sis , nface are great climbs and recommended highly

May the wind be at your back!! Make us proud and envious Erden!!

Thanks for the input , we will see if one of the papers pick it up . Thanks, N by NW ,for the editing

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The gorge hasnt been in in awhile. I believe my friend Bob M. was one of the first to visit the area. There is so much in the Gorge when its in. I havent heard of much in the way of mixed . Who was the one working on that project?