Peter_Puget

Isn't his song 21st Century Schizoid Man PP

From Shoreline Mtn Products DMM #2 Range 1.14"-1.7" Friend #2 Range 1.1"-1.7" Link Jon I wish I had your lunch today! PP

Ahhh In summary Dru is agreeing with me. But he is under the mistaken belief I like rope stretchers. Not sure where he got that idea - maybe the smoke is getting to him!

Fern- I know it was a joke that didn't translate well to the internet. But you do seem a bit testy as does Dru! 14 x 150' = 2,100 ft. Is the route at least 2,100? I was just commenting on how the NW has very few long pitch routes (I will admit slabs are the exception) eg Grand Wall lots of shorties. They are not all 50 meter ptiches on freeway either! By the way short pitches arent a bad thing. PP

Erik is correct!

Jon - I believe that Friends Clog Cams and DDM use the same numbering system

14 pitches! They must be shorties. Sadly the only thing shorter than a Squamish pitch is an Index pitch Beckey claims the Lizard route on the GNS is five pitches long! Sounds like a fun route! I may not want to contribute to their brush supply/bolt fund but they at least deserve a beer after all that work.

One advantage to Friends is that Friends, Clog cams and DMM all have the same cam sizes so you can mix and match and not screw up your sizing.

Haven’t read them but Jim Collins (FFA Psycho Roof, FFA Genesis) has written some management books. link PP

That's rigght! Gotta find out if I am Tuff enough!

Only crack I want to send is that OW/Squeeze in the Tumwater! Thumb! Thumb! Thumb!

Splitters? I never thought of splitters when I thought of Index

"If all those yuppies can climb Mount Everest, at 29,000 feet, can't we pay some locals to nab Osama at 14,000 feet?" - Dowd in the NYT It's her critique of the armed forces' failure so far to capture Osama bin Laden. Wouldn't you love to see her in a room with special forces troops, risking their lives right now to protect us? Wouldn't you love to see her tell them that a yuppie could do a better job?

Oddly this weekend I came across a double pack of Godzilla movies costing only $4. I snagged them and as I watched one I couldn’t help but think of you OW. Even goofier when I saw your post I thought about those films even before I saw the Godzilla reference! PP

Leejams – I do not believe I was looking at Silent Running. This route was very close to TS and joined it via a 3(?) bolt traverse. I could be wrong about where it joins TS. Where's Mattp when you need him?!?!?! PP

All the commotion regarding lightweight gear got me a thinkin’. Has anyone seen a comparison between rack weights? For example let’s pick 5 points in time separated by 10 years starting at 1965 and ending at 2003 (ignore the loss of a few years) It would be interesting to estimate the weight of an “average” rack” the made up of the gear available at the different times. I sense a Pub Club experiment here! PP

Total Soul is a fun route but the whole time I was on it I kept wondering about the bolts off to the right. That route looks even better! Has anyone been on it? It joins TS at the top of the 4th pitch. Bad Anchor Warning: The route to the left of the start of TS (on the S Buttress) with a bunch of bolts is super groovy but the anchor sucks! Unless you were replacing it, I wouldn’t climb the route. But the two routes to the left (NW Passage? And ?) were really fun. Esp the right hand route. Their bolts are worth upgrading from 1/4". Not to continue to flog a dead horse but if there was a ROCK CLIMBING FORUM Darrington threads would be all located in one forum. PP

Think of the FWA of Liberty Crack too

Marylou has a great compilation of 73-74 live Crimson - about half improv - it rocks. Super great Starless!

Wow Alpinek that's almost 75 KC records (if you count the Projekcts )!

AGREED!

On August 27, Amina Lawal, a 32-year-old Nigerian single mother, sat in an Islamic sharia court in Katsina state in northern Nigeria and nursed her two-year-old daughter, Wasila. Wasila had been born over nine months after Amina was divorced and, in Nigeria's Islamic courts, this is taken to be prima facie evidence that Amina committed adultery. If her appeal of this conviction is denied, she will be buried up to her chest, and the surrounding throng will throw stones at her until she is dead. The stones used must not be so small that they will inflict no damage, nor so large that they will kill her too quickly. She must die slowly and painfully in front of the crowd. Of course, in any adultery case, there must also be a man involved, and Amina testified that she had not willingly committed adultery but had been raped. However, to convict a man of rape, Nigeria's sharia courts usually require that there be four male Muslim witnesses. Though the courts are not yet clear on this, it may be (following precedent in other Islamist jurisdictions such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, and Pakistan) that up to eight male non-Muslim witnesses, or 16 female non-Muslim witnesses, would also suffice for the conviction of a male Muslim. However, since Nigerian adulterers and rapists — like those in other parts of the world — do not usually perform in front of crowds, the man has been acquitted, and Amina and her daughter stand alone. She is one of five women who have been so charged, though none has yet been executed. Thanks to the international attention their cases attracted, other luckless women have had their sentences deferred, or dismissed on technical grounds. In Amina's case, the appeals court has deferred judgment until September 25.

Actually it is "Remember Shakti" But JM will still be there

Muffy! We think almost alike. Here is what I was thinking:"ya I went to Rockies and I climbed North Face of Temple, and North face of Alberta, drank a bunch of beer screwed my girl friend at Lake Anne." PP

Bug - I would just point out that I wasn't "equating" bouldering and alpine climbing at all. Although pope did try to suggest I was. Such comparisons might be fun to explore but I simply was not making one in my post. PP