Peter_Puget

that's I am going to go climbing at....

PP

Gyms area frankenstien creation comprisef of equal parts climbing, cc.com and your local dive. Have fun!!

Of course you can always start spraying about what you will be doing in this "forthcoming unprecedented simultaneous occurence of weekend and good-weather window" Perfect rock climbing weather!

The Zeke's Boulders are MIGHTY and to me at least more attractive than the Zeke's walls. Some of them are bigger than some of the cliffs at 38. Go check them out!

Never heard of it but how is the Monroe gym? If I ever get rained out at Index would it be worth it to stop by and climb there? The only thing I can think of is Money Creek crags but they don't follow your description. PP

If they are Rock post 'em in the RC forum! Hopefully that will be fairly free of spray

Anyone going? Link PP

Yvon is an attention seeker BS'er. He also said this. The Climbing in Yosemite "is neither aesthetic nor enjoyable, it is merely difficult." - Yvon Chouinard

Minx - good question. Answer ti doesn't have to be. This site has given me hours of fun: Fairmdel If you want numbers that is. PP

"I might have made a tactical error not seeing a physician for 20 years - it was one of those phobias that didn't pay off." - Warren Zevon

Scrambler at a given slice of time that is true. But in the real world the money supply is constantly changing even without the creation of moneyby the Federal government. Heck it is very difficult to even estimate the money supply at any given time let alone measure it accurately. Your zero-sum game is simply not a viable representation of a dynamic economy. The main point I believe he was making is that most people have no conception of what $87b is in relation to other thing in the US economy. I believe the same is true when people talk about campaign finance reforn. My standard retort is “do you think too much money is being spent on elections? “ “Oh you do How would you determine the proper amount?” “By the way since the US economy is the largest in the world and its success and failures impact not only the well being of Americans but also millions around the world - in at times literally life and death ways – don’t you think it is worth using resources to campaign for its control?” “How big is the US home detergent market and how much money is spent on advertising to get/gain market share in it?” PP

From another site but I agree with his basic thought: That 87 billion is chump change for a nation with an 11 TRILLION dollar GDP. And where do you suppose that 8.7E10 dollars is going? Into a pit somewhere? NOPE. As for Clinton, his parsimony, his 'I don't give a F**K about national security attitude, and his 'kick the problem into the next guy's administration' is a big contributor to our current challenges. In short, you have demonstrated you know the price of everything and the value of nothing. To help you separate your head from your colon, Here is a homework exercise for ya, if you have the gonads to try it: 1. What percentage of GDP is 87 billion dollars? 2. What percentage of government spending (all levels) is it? 3. What percentrage of federal spending? 4. Of federal DISCRETIONARY spending? 5. Of national pet product spending? 6. Of national soft drink spending? Good luck, and thanks for playing. MG"

I agree but bring it to the Rock Forum and we won't have to read/page by all the BS! PP

Erik I'd explain it all to you but it would require lots of time being a belay slave! Are you willing to invest in yourslef?

I think Dwayner has more than proved my point. It’s up to the powers that be and all of us to make this forum what it will become. I have expressed my opinion and am hopeful this forum will be a groovy thing that will encourage even more participation by the broader range of climbers. PP

Well by that definition Dwayner's post is definately outta here! PP

Well if only one criminal is prosecuted it still is a good thing. I dont think special treatment is an issue. I say no spray for everyone. I even volunteered to mod the forum. Who knows what the result will be. PP

Not to be a wanker but before going I'd evaluate local medical facilities! LOL I sound like an old man!

" it would be a new development if the moderators of cc.com adopted a policy of cutting posts that they perceive those as childish attempts to put down others and gain attention or otherwise exhibit some form of "bad behavior." new develpoments = progress. In my view, Dwayner is no more of an impediment to thoughtful bolting discussions than some others around here. One brick at a time. Several other forums (Ice and Courteney's) have operated wonderfully a spray free enviroments. Al we are saying is give spray free a chance! PP

Actually Mattp what I find irritating about Dwayner is he just spews forth shit in an arrogant and condescending manner. He makes no effort to present a well-reasoned argument. I find his silly mocking of others tiresome as his claim that he does it to present the other side of a serious issue. I might have believed that two years ago but now I find it a shallow excuse for him to mock others and direct attention to himself. I say keep such behavior out of the RC forum. PP

I have climbed that route. You climb past some bolts and then move left thru the wild "huecos." If I remember correctly the first clip is a bit of a reach. You then climb left (you can use slings for pro) you climb out of a hole and at first it is a bit intimidating because you can't see the bolt. After clipping the last bolt it is a long reach virtually tr'd to the top. The route is a bit of a one move wonder but still fun. Rock a bit grainy. It is not a hard 10b. Secret beta is go for it at the top. Seond beta is it is a bit strenuous but you can get a no hands rest in the womb so you can depump before the crux PP

Yes Ma'am! I will.

Do you check cc.com spray before turning in? Is it the first thing you do in the am? How long have you spent online? Today Babnick seems to be on continuously. Tim, Jon any stats available?