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Marylou has a great compilation of 73-74 live Crimson - about half improv - it rocks. Super great Starless!

Wow Alpinek that's almost 75 KC records (if you count the Projekcts )!

AGREED!

On August 27, Amina Lawal, a 32-year-old Nigerian single mother, sat in an Islamic sharia court in Katsina state in northern Nigeria and nursed her two-year-old daughter, Wasila. Wasila had been born over nine months after Amina was divorced and, in Nigeria's Islamic courts, this is taken to be prima facie evidence that Amina committed adultery. If her appeal of this conviction is denied, she will be buried up to her chest, and the surrounding throng will throw stones at her until she is dead. The stones used must not be so small that they will inflict no damage, nor so large that they will kill her too quickly. She must die slowly and painfully in front of the crowd. Of course, in any adultery case, there must also be a man involved, and Amina testified that she had not willingly committed adultery but had been raped. However, to convict a man of rape, Nigeria's sharia courts usually require that there be four male Muslim witnesses. Though the courts are not yet clear on this, it may be (following precedent in other Islamist jurisdictions such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, and Pakistan) that up to eight male non-Muslim witnesses, or 16 female non-Muslim witnesses, would also suffice for the conviction of a male Muslim. However, since Nigerian adulterers and rapists — like those in other parts of the world — do not usually perform in front of crowds, the man has been acquitted, and Amina and her daughter stand alone. She is one of five women who have been so charged, though none has yet been executed. Thanks to the international attention their cases attracted, other luckless women have had their sentences deferred, or dismissed on technical grounds. In Amina's case, the appeals court has deferred judgment until September 25.

Actually it is "Remember Shakti" But JM will still be there

Muffy! We think almost alike. Here is what I was thinking:"ya I went to Rockies and I climbed North Face of Temple, and North face of Alberta, drank a bunch of beer screwed my girl friend at Lake Anne." PP

Bug - I would just point out that I wasn't "equating" bouldering and alpine climbing at all. Although pope did try to suggest I was. Such comparisons might be fun to explore but I simply was not making one in my post. PP

Murray - I think the 3rd Symphony has been a top seller in the "classical" (despite not being classical at all) sale group for years. You've inspired me to go by the CD of Tapestry since my turntable is no longer active I have forgotten about lots of old records like that.

Absurd. Only three of the pursuits mentioned in this dubious equation require precisely the qualities that Ben Bowman suggests allowed him passage on "the Big Ben": guts, skill and determination. I might add that wall climbing and alpine ascents often require a lust for adventure and tolerance for physical suffering. Bouldering requires only steel fingers and a crowd of pad people, sporting the latest affectation of teen-age hipsters' culture. The adventure and commitment found on the side of a boulder is better equated to playing Game Boy on level 3. Not that bouldering isn't fun......just don't pretend you're on top of Everest when you mantle 10 feet above your little crash pads. Typical papal nonsequitors. Not even close to being responsive to my post. PP

Ever heard of the Thimble? PP

Just a reminder shakti wil be here 9/25 Moore Theater

Don't let the negativity bring you down. Truth be told Distel most of the "Alpine"climbing on this site is hard to distinguish from hiking. But still, TRs like Jayb's adventure on Glacier are great to read about because you can get a sense of the spirit of the trip. The same spirit can exist in a 15' boulder ascent, Erden's trip to the north, a Rockies north wall or a Yosemite Big Wall. PP

I hate to state the obvious but the answer is: There is no ROCK CLIMBING FORUM!

Matt - Several times I have suggested to people that the WMA would be happy to donated equipment and as of yet all have declined. Rudy I think you are the man! 1/2" stainless waiting for you! PP

I think a guidebook would rock! If the road and access remain open the area is a great addition to the westside! Erik it is bouldering - finding a contrived variation is the best part.

I believe the gate is now unlocked and you can drive almost to the cliff. I do not know if the area is "offically" open again but it is seeing a lot of activity. The cliff itself is huge but the rock is not as nice as the Town Walls. There are lots of boulders in the area tho. I haven't been there since the logging but I hear it rocks!

I don't see it either. Minx are we still on for the gym tonight? PP

Jordop - Draw in your two pitches!

So true...bouldering is the scene these days in fact I heard 20 people were at Zeke's a couple weeks ago. I need to check it out despite that fact that I probably could climb even a V1. With the new guide this has been a Leavenworth year for me I have even bouldered there a few times..the horror! PP

What’s the new route story this year? Record weather and aside from a couple alpine routes not much is new. I have heard of only a few new rock routes; however, about a million new ones should have been put up this summer. Where are they? Maybe if there was a New R……. Erik – Spill the beans on your activities this summer. You must be holding out on us. PP

Sorry Trask I won't keep bugging you although I was being quite sincere. Cheers PP

http://www.mikedoyle.ca/index.shtml PP

Is that the climbing team coach? Have read his training guide? It is on the web as a PDF (or maybe Word) file. PP

RumR - Waddya say we ban Mystic from the new forum onc eit's up and running? PP