Peter_Puget

I am surprised to see RumRs posting -all I can say is doesn't it feel better not being on the dark side.I agree with Mister E about Dwayner but here is a poll: Do you view the ascents by the yosemite masters from let's say 1950 to 1965 with disgust?YesNo

Courtney – I have tried several times to find the webpage on your site with the 6-1-6-1-6-1 pull ups described. Did it ever exist or am I crazy? PP

Is this Dru and Alpinek with their Anti Rope Up? PP

Mr Natural – It is posts like yours that give this site its lame ass wannabe image. It is so arm chair!. Anyone with sense realizes it is more like this: Hanging off that pocket you reach to clip the draw and your body swings out of balance. You look down and see the knife edge arete and think;”I’ve got to make this clip!” Then when you start to pull the rope up to clip the draw and your strength is failing you’re thinking how much you wish you were on some trad crack route where you could just hang on a cam wherever and whenever you wanted. But you hang in there and make the clip and then quickly throw for the “Jug” .Only to find out that the jug isn’t quite as big as DFA led you to believe. Feet swinging you match hands, stabilize and pull thru! The anchors are clipped and a quick lower brings you back to the ground. That evening eating the biggest combination plate the Mexican eatery offers you notice that your arms are still like rubber; you feel like you are King of the World! Then you notice that cute as hell girl across the room and wonder: Is that Muffy or Minx? PP

ERik! You say that with a smart ass attitude! But ole Peter months ago asked the good Dr. for the beta which He then dutifully printed out and reads every time he goes potty! He also adopted the Dr. third person style. PP

Excuses! Excuses! Excuses!

Exactly! That's why everyone should be getting excited about climbing!!!!!! PP

…right about one thing. This site is full of wannabes! It’s the end of summer and no one is spraying about climbing. Not even goofy “let’s go to 38 posts”. (Something I’d like to do by the way) Instead everyone is spraying about saying SHIT or FUCK. Even worse I am reading this crap. Pathetic! Let’s get some climbing talk going! If only there was a ROCK CLIMBING FORUM! PP

I forget the name but you park in the large trailhead/parkinglot about 14 miles off i-90. Cross the bridge (huge arch)then follow the trail around 15 minutes to where you can see the wall. There are at least two trails to the wall take the second (near some steps in the trail) These direction may seem vague but they should work. Once on the trail you can't get lost and you'll know the trail by the bridge. The routes are pretty good. It would not be a good area on a sunny day. th ewall get shade in the afternoon. The route labeled .10b on the photodiagram must be a typo as it was harder than the .10d and the .11 to the left. Best one pitch slab climbing in the state. There are second pitches but we didn't climb them. Just looked at the picture. Best routes are Pay to Play and Wonderful World. The 5.9 is a good route too but has one funky clip. If you are short you might want to bring an extender or I just might be a super wiennie. PP

I wonder if cam stops really would have helped in the situation you describe. On single axle cams the cams stops I am familiar with only work when pressing against the cam stop on the opposing cam. Thus, if one cam is fully contracted the other is free to become over-extended despite having a cam stop. PP

Two unanswered questions remain: 1) Where is the lab data supporting Tex's claim regarding Alien's strength vs. Met. TCUs? 2) Alex, Why do you think the lack of cam stops cause your unit to become damaged? PP

The concern over conflict between climbers is quite real. I am sure almost everyone surfing this site is not for the bolting of cracks. I am even more certain that those who view it as ok are not going to have their minds changed by any debate on this site. As a side bar I would note that in several areas land managers have asked climbers to install rap anchors so that easy walk off are not used in order to reduce erosion. PP

Well Ice Ice what do you think? My only comment is that they wheren't very good at what they were trying to do. Namely: Why all the BS crow bar shit. Sure they pulled it out a bit but ultimatley they broke it off! Why not just start whith that idea. Ultimately their end result is at best not different and you eliminate the chance of fucking up the rock with all the prying. Ah amatuers at work. PP

Alex - Just trying to visualize how the lack of cam stops "toasted" the alien. Can you tell me more about how that happened? PP

Good climb but it sure as heck aint no finger crack!

Have you climbed much at Beacon? I bet there are some good cracks there.

Well if you're talkin Yosemite: Butterballs! Pinky Paralysis! Torque Converter! English Breakfast Crack! exas Chainsaw Massacre! Serenity is a groovy climb! PP

Here are some that pop to mind: Static Point Cool finger crack on Lost Charms at Static Point. Why don’t more people climb this route? Index Second pitch of Japanese Gardens. Each jam smaller than the one before it. Pressure Drop has some gnarly ring jams before it becomes hand size. Leavenworth The 10b on the Kramar/Bale route. Looks 5.7 until you start it! ROTC is fingery at the hard part. Radio Sex too short but bomber jams Snoqualmie Pass That route on the left side of the Fun Forest. What are your favs? PP

I want you, every morning, to wake up, look in the mirror and ask yourself: 'What can I do today to increase the money supply?' " -- John Erlichman

Right ON Mattp! PM your screen name to me. By the way because I suspect that the BBS will see a huge increase in traffic now I want to clarify one hting: Trask is my name on the site. Don't want you to be confused and think it was my inspiration from this site. PP

Erik why don't you volunteer to mod the forum? That'll get them moving on it. I'll be your backup!

Plus I like the squirrel at the entrance and that face has the “damn I was just busted at the park bathroom” mug shot look!

I think one reason I feel so at home here is the great thread titles: “Bivvy Sack Question” “Trask, I can’t take it anymore” “How do you clean you gear” ”Exit 32 or 38?” “What a weekend” “”Checking in with the Plab” “I don’t get it” “Jay Len Queer Eye Makeover” “Pub Club 8/5” “JGowans Something to make you feel at home” “Wank” “Sex Crazed with a Meter long Penis” “What is chestbeating?” “Need a partner for Marymore Park” You'd find the same or smilar titles on the Ramrod BBS . PP

Marylou I agree with your comments vis a vis but I have always felt wanted here at CC.com. With the exception noted above.

Now you're talkin' DFA. That is the question facing mankind today. Due to a lack of this vital forum we are stuck with homo jokes. Let's talk rock! PP Actually I think it (the NEW ROCK CLIMBING FORUM] ) will be up after Timmy's vacation.