Peter_Puget

Well if only one criminal is prosecuted it still is a good thing. I dont think special treatment is an issue. I say no spray for everyone. I even volunteered to mod the forum. Who knows what the result will be. PP

Not to be a wanker but before going I'd evaluate local medical facilities! LOL I sound like an old man!

" it would be a new development if the moderators of cc.com adopted a policy of cutting posts that they perceive those as childish attempts to put down others and gain attention or otherwise exhibit some form of "bad behavior." new develpoments = progress. In my view, Dwayner is no more of an impediment to thoughtful bolting discussions than some others around here. One brick at a time. Several other forums (Ice and Courteney's) have operated wonderfully a spray free enviroments. Al we are saying is give spray free a chance! PP

Actually Mattp what I find irritating about Dwayner is he just spews forth shit in an arrogant and condescending manner. He makes no effort to present a well-reasoned argument. I find his silly mocking of others tiresome as his claim that he does it to present the other side of a serious issue. I might have believed that two years ago but now I find it a shallow excuse for him to mock others and direct attention to himself. I say keep such behavior out of the RC forum. PP

I have climbed that route. You climb past some bolts and then move left thru the wild "huecos." If I remember correctly the first clip is a bit of a reach. You then climb left (you can use slings for pro) you climb out of a hole and at first it is a bit intimidating because you can't see the bolt. After clipping the last bolt it is a long reach virtually tr'd to the top. The route is a bit of a one move wonder but still fun. Rock a bit grainy. It is not a hard 10b. Secret beta is go for it at the top. Seond beta is it is a bit strenuous but you can get a no hands rest in the womb so you can depump before the crux PP

Yes Ma'am! I will.

Do you check cc.com spray before turning in? Is it the first thing you do in the am? How long have you spent online? Today Babnick seems to be on continuously. Tim, Jon any stats available?

Quick Goole search came up with this picture showing a blown out Screamer and the partially cut sling it was attached to. The sling was around a horn. Seem pretty like ly the screamer kept the piece from failing.

I have used them quite a bit and was just thinking how I needed to buy new ones. Only once has one I used actually been activated. The early models used a series of bar tacks that would be pulled apart. (Actually Forrest developed an expensive limiter before the bar tack scheme was developed but it was not extensively used) These had a reputation of causing a vibration that caused the gate to flutter open and shut. While open the 'biner is dramatically weaker. The Yates limiter uses vertical seems which are pulled apart. This method reduces or eliminates the gate flutter. Do they work? Yes. I once witnessed a 75' fall being caught on a #2 RP. The limiter was one of the old bar tack models and it sounded like a burst of machine gun fire as the bar tacks flew apart. Had the RP pulled the guy would have smashed into a ledge. After seeing that I became convinced of their practical utility. If you worry about gate flutter use a locking carabiner. PP

Nice poem Dwayner but keep it in spray! PP

I lived just south of the Oregon border in the late 70's early 80's and loved the bouldering. Only down side is the rock in that area can be a bit crumbly. Do you have any pics? Bouldering on the beach is an easy way to sneak climbing in to a family vacation. By the way there are some awesome cracks along the coast not many but there are some. I remember aiding up to a RURP once that just fell apart it was solid rust. PP

Sheer Bloody Poetry! That was wonderful!

Must be failed belay test

The basalt in the gorge is soo much better than the WA varieties. But I get what you mean I just liek the gorge

Spray's place is in spray!

RumR - The gorge rocks why don't you like it?

Hey there is always the GORGE! There be some rockin' route there.

Not sure if Timmy will really keep this one around or if he is only joking but I say: Keep the Spray Away! PP

BIG Thanks!

BIG Thanks!

Now we're ROCKIN'

Scandal I can't post there either!

I for one miss Extremo’s enthusiasm. While I may not care for “Jibbing” , his is the spirit that will fill the NEW ROCK CLIMBING FORUM. Extremo, if you read this, I hope the Jibbing is good! And don’t stare directly in to the disco lasers. PP

There already is one! Click here

You going with them ChucK?