Stefan

I tried Lindeman in December, but we did not have all this beta becuase I didn't do my homework--we walked out in a downpour. I have decided to go up the Nesakwatch drainage and then traverse over to Lindeman from there. I would very much like a trip report when/if you do it. [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Stefan ]

TRUE STORY I worked at REI Headquarters for 6 years. I was truly the only dedicated climber there out of maybe 400 people. Some people climb here and there but not as much as I did becuase they had full time jobs (like I did) and family obligations. (People weren’t obsessed with climbing like I was). So an opportunity came in the climbing department at headquarters and I applied for the position. This was the lowest position in the climbing department. I did not get the position. Guess who did? A person who did not even know what a carabiner is! That person still works at REI and has never climbed a day. (I have inside knowledge that the person doesn’t climb.) Get this also: There are people in their water sports department who don’t canoe or kayak either! Am I bitter about being rejected? No. Things just always work out for the better. The salesfloor people are mostly climber uneducated people with a few people here and there who know their climbing stuff. A lot of them do backpack, but most of them don’t climb. If you wanted knowledgeable staff you would probably have to pay a higher premium for a more educated staff, which in the end would result in higher prices at REI across the board. I also know the staff at REI are lurking on this webpage.

Any ice climbing potential on the east side of Goose Egg mountain?

UPDATE: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/regions/northcentral/Maint/Area3/nc2002/

quote: Originally posted by dkemp: Comin' off Sourdough Ridge near Elephant Butte, alongside then crossing Torment Creek, and out via Stetattle Creek - strenuous and unpleasant. dkemp: Don't you mean Torrent Creek?

Worst Descent:Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!!Bedayn Coulouir of Goode!!!!!!!!! We even had ideal weather! DON'T DO IT! If you want to come down on that side come down the standard up route.

#1 Italian Dolomites (greenery,easy access,great cheese, beautiful women) #2 Karakorum (fricken intimidating peaks and routes everywhere, but a pain in the ass to get to)

The only thing that I think I would want out of the guiding side of Mt. Rainier is to make the contracts publicly available for viewing. I have heard rumors that people can't see the contracts--which does not make sense to me. I thought that all federal contracts are publicly available--except of course those contracts that are needed for national security.

On my way back to Highway 20 after climbing the NE Buttress of Goode here is what my partner and I saw on the trail about 7 miles from the road. It was about 85 degrees out. A 35 year old man wearing a full on Scottish sweater and jeans. He is hauling 2 suitcases. He drops them next to two other suitcases. All the suitcases have rollers on them. In his stash of gear he has a full navy sized duffle bag, several garbage bags full of something I don’t know, a footlocker, and a 5 gallon water jug full of water. No backpack. No horse. The guy has nobody with him. We get to talking to him and he says he is walking to Leavenworth. It has taken him 3-4 days to walk the 7 miles he has gone from Highway 20. It takes him 5 trips back and forth to bring all his gear forward along the trail, and he does it in increments of one mile. I found out the NPS interviewed him when he got to the Stehekin road. They were very suspicious of him and looked through his stuff. He had no drugs and all the stuff he was carrying was his worldly possessions and he was just on a summer romp through the woods.

Road has snow blocking all vehicles 50 yards from the highway. You can take your snowmobile up it though.

I know someone who is climbing Mt. Pissis right now as we speak.....

Did you guys know that the average human head weighs 8 and half pounds?

Here is a picture I took of vegetablebelay and his climbing buddy before they did the north face of Stuart last year. http://www.prinnt.com/godspeed/best_picture_ever.jpg

Found out the man's name is Jim White. Done quite a bit of first ascents in the Olympics. He has done quite a bit too with John Roper. I don't know if he has been out much recently though.....

I would like to talk to this man. I hope somebody knows him.....

If you do access that road via snowmobile--then let me know. I would be interested in using that road too for snowmobiling....

No one lives up that way. I think the forest service says “restricted” because they don’t want motorcyclists using the road—those roads are soft in spring and could suffer a lot of damage from use. No one will be patrolling for illegal snowmobilers. I have heard of people snowmobiling that road to get to the top of Cashmere and they went that way. But when did they go? I don’t know. Could be several years ago. Could be that the roads have been decommissioned. Best bet is to contact some snowmobile club in Wenatchee and see what they have to say about it.

When I was climbing G2 a couple years ago, somebody placed wands. But they put REFLECTIVE TAPE on the wands. I thought that was awesome becuase then you could see the wands WITH YOUR HEADLAMP. You can't see any type of damned wand in the dark unless it reflects.

I recommend going up Kautz creek to Pyramid. I was up the trail two weeks ago. Snow was packed down to about 5000 feet from previous people.

I am thinking of being in the western Austrian and Switzerland area. I know that still covers a lot of area and I will be there during the peak time, but I will be attending a wedding which I have no control over the date, and I do have to work, which I have no control over the time!

It looks like I might be going to the Europe this summer for a family wedding and I will be looking at climbing some stuff. Can anybody recommend an Alps guidebook in English?

Looking for anybody that might be interested in doing an overnighter doing Lindeman/Middle Peak via the Centre creek road in BC on Thursday and Friday December 27/28. No ice. Only mountaineering. I will be using snowshoes. Skiers welcome. Looks like 3-4 miles of road before you go cross country. I would leave very early Thursday morning and return very late on Friday from the Seattle area. This is not a definite plan but I am very interested in doing this.

4hrs to Lindeman?. Now you got me thinking. Thanks for the Beta on times for Cheam too!

Yeah, I know the Centre road does show a faster approach--however, in the winter I know the road is blocked by snow. At least the Chilliwack Lake road would get me closer to the base of the peaks. But I have decided to look elsewhere based on your beta about plowing the road..... What about the Cheam range? Are those good peaks to do in the winter?

No winter ascent of Bear for me. I was just thinking of an overnight jaunt up Lindeman or Middle Peak sometime in the winter......