Stefan

Can I whine?

quote: Originally posted by chucK: Stefan, Check this out abridged beta from CC.com . A while back I took some threads that had beta for various things I wanted to try. I saved the source code and edited out all the crap. That left me with peeeyure beta. Later I put 'em on my webpage. I hope noone minds (Jon, Tim), I tried to attribute everything, except maybe in one link (the Backbone Ridge one) where I made this little file way before I ever had any thoughts of sharing it with the world. Anyway, Stefan, if you want a pure beta repository, go ahead and make a couple pages like these and send 'em to me. I'll put them on this page. Or post 'em on your own if you got one. Unfortunately, I haven't kept any of my trip reports. I know I should to look at them.....

quote: Originally posted by jon: Hey I got a question for you guys and gals which I don't think we have ever talked about before.... Should we add more forums and/or change the organization for some of them? Is the Route Reporting Category broken up into enough forum or should we break it up more? Thanks for the feedback!!!! Hello????? Jon???? You asked this question. Guess what? I replied. Just becuase I ask, doesn't mean you have to do. Remember, you asked.

Lambone: The current sections would be as is. People would ask questions for beta. There would be spray. I am asking for a new place for ONLY trip reports without the potential for any responses. Dru: What I would like to see is a guidebook online. The guidebook would be constantly updated by its users--not updated whenever the author wanted it to be updated. Dru as you know, access to the base of peaks changes with the logging companies if they decide to put up a gate/improve a road/abandon a road. Also the guidebook online would have MORE INFORMATION than what the editors would allow in the books. Hell, look at bivouac.com it is growing by its users and information--and it is updated. There is nothing like bivouac.com on this website--or for the Cascades on any site I have seen. Jon: See above for the idea about guidebook online. I don't have the time, and probably most of your users who have logged on don't have the time either. You are probably online so much, you just assume everybody else has the time. Truth is-we don't all have T1's or DSL's.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Stefan - How many of your trip reports have been deleted Personally I totally disagree. If you want no-reply TRs then post on summitpose or nwta. If there wrre no replies to TRs there wouldnt have been Muir on Saturday or the current West Ridge of Prussik thread and Scot'teryx would never know he was gaining acceptance as he learns to climb more and chestbeat less. I know I said deleted. I guess I meant "lost" in the array of spray. If you want beta on some peak you have dig through all the spray and odd posts that pop it. Who has time for that? Well, maybe you Dru. Not me. I need something fast. Efficient. Without spray. That's what a lot of people want from the web.

Jon You want something to improve this site? How about a trip reports place where people can post their trip reports by giving beta, BUT no one can respond to the post—thereby eliminating the spray. The other thing that would make it a quality addition, is that you would not delete the information. I find it frustrating to post information and beta, only to have it deleted. If people wanted more questions from the trip report then they would PM the writer. This “posting” place would be similar to Summitpost.com or WTA.org which has about 9000 trip reports on trails.

I saw there is a thread on this topic but it died. Seriously, has anyone out there climbed Mt. Temple and can give me beta so I don't miss the correct peak?

thanks tread tramp and everybody else. Did anybody else witness any other type of snow conditions up there this weekend?

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: During the last few weeks, I've been running into an increasing number of folks with loads of negative comments about cc.com. A couple are wel--respected climbing "pioneers" in the NW while others were strangers. One notable individual claimed he stopped posting because everytime he contributed something useful, he received abuse. Another referred to the site as "a mean crowd" and another chuckled at the thought of participating. Hey, Dwayner. Please encourage the folks who have negative comments to post good stuff on this website. AND TO CONTINUE POSTING ON THIS WEBSITE. Tell them to ignore the riff raff becuase there are people like me who listen to the quality stuff that comes out and do not like to participate in spray, becuase in essence I like to climb. (0nce in a while I try to spray, but I suck at it.) Tell them, I am listening for good beta. Yeah, I lurk a lot, but I save the good stuff when it comes up. PLEASE TELL THEM TO CONTINUE TO POST, becuase I am listening. For example, I like the quality posts that Lowell Skoog posts on here. He basically ignores the riff raff.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: During the last few weeks, I've been running into an increasing number of folks with loads of negative comments about cc.com. A couple are wel--respected climbing "pioneers" in the NW while others were strangers. One notable individual claimed he stopped posting because everytime he contributed something useful, he received abuse. Another referred to the site as "a mean crowd" and another chuckled at the thought of participating. Hey, Dwayner. Please encourage the folks who have negative comments to post good stuff on this website. AND TO CONTINUE POSTING ON THIS WEBSITE. Tell them to ignore the riff raff becuase there are people like me who listen to the quality stuff that comes out and do not like to participate in spray, becuase in essence I like to climb. (0nce in a while I try to spray, but I suck at it.) Tell them, I am listening for good beta. Yeah, I lurk a lot, but I save the good stuff when it comes up. PLEASE TELL THEM TO CONTINUE TO POST, becuase I am listening. For example, I like the quality posts that Lowell Skoog posts on here. He basically ignores the riff raff.

I go harder and further than I used to becuase I am more further intuned into what is possible. I now try to start at the crack of dawn and finish by evening light. Wasted daylight is wasted climbing time for me. I am less cautious now than when I was younger becuase I have more confidence in myself. I have also come to the realization that I can't climb everything and go everywhere.....and that makes me a little sad.....

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Please look to see if you see a snowline for any of you going to the Enchantments this weekend (October 5-6). I will be there next weekend (October 12-13) to climb and would like to know what you find. Please respond to this post. Thanks!

So, did you end up climbing the east face of Lexington? I was up on top on this past Saturday....

now vege. you aint a republican by chance?

The final section of Golden Horn is definitely class 4. Might bring a short rope for a rappel off the top.

Can you tell me exactly where your camp was in reference to point x6072 on the USGS quad?

Dru,Dru,Dru,Dru…. You would call me a peakbagger and many of my friends do…….I don’t look at it as peakbagging. Some stats: This year so far I have 108 peaks to my name. Last year I did 107. The year before that I did 111. A couple of my friends hover in the 200 area because they don’t have kids to take care of. A peak to me has at least 400’ of prominence (in Europe it is 100 meters) and/or is officially named. So why the hell do I do it? 1) First I like getting to the top of something. It makes me feel like I have accomplished something when I have no higher to go. I call it the “God complex” – everything is below me. I cannot do a rock route in the middle of a wall because I feel that I have not completed something—you can always go higher! 2) I love to be where there is noone. The Cascades do a wonderful job of that. (I know the Canadian peaks are even better for this, but they are too far away….) I feel suffocated with too many people around when I have been to the cragging places of Index, Leavenworth, or that place along the Columbia River. But why do I do so many? 1) I love the exercise. 2) I do not like to repeat. That repeat thing is the same to me for restaurants – I do not like to go to the same restaurant twice. Why go to the same restaurant when you have so many to choose from? You only have one life. Why live it the same any time? 3) I feel like I have accomplished something when I push my physical limits. That’s why I do so many peaks in one trip. [ 09-24-2002, 02:37 PM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: Consider: would you really want someone following the advice that you're giving? I think advocating free soloing verges on irresponsibility, IMO. I've done a bit of soloing, sometimes getting myself in situations that I now feel fortunate to have come out of alive. I doubt I did this because someone advocated soloing, but regardless, I'd never advocate something so inherently dangerous. I think I'd be a bit horrified if someone died due to my "advice". You know what? I give advice to people who I know are going out with other people. Giving advice to someone who is soloing or going out with other people is NO DIFFFERENCE. Advocating soloing is just as dangerous as advocating to go out and climb Liberty Bell with the Mountaineers. Climbing is dangerous no matter what you do. Even the standard route on Rainier with a guide. Either solo or with a group. I bet each and every one of you has given advice to someone. Fuck. While we're on it. My aunt gives advice to her daughter for raising her two grandchildren. And guess what? The daughter is raising the two grandchildren SOLO. I Guess that's irresponsible!!!!!!!!!

Can you direct me to the thread in question Terminal Gravity? I thought this was the internet. Everything on this damned computer thingy should be taken with a grain of salt.

Hey Dwayner, were those dudes French? The French are typically assholes when it comes to climbing. Assholes to us that is, however they have different attitudes when it comes to climbing. P.S. Do you keep in contact with Mr. Mercer? [ 09-23-2002, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

I do chat. I like it. Whatever to keep it running gets my thumbs up.

vegetablebelay check pm!

Where is point 7002 geographically?

Just out of curiosity. When will the next pub club meeting take place in Tacoma? Anyone? Anyone? I might attend my first one....