Stefan

Maybe you can get them to make you a nice lunch on the glacier like this one: http://www.glacierair.com/Tours-Special.htm

I do not know about the minimal vertical requirements of Base Jumping but High Rock just southwest of Mt. Rainier might be good. About a 2 mile walk on a trail to a hut with good views of Mt. Rainier and a pretty damned near vertical cliff to jump off of....i think it is 800 vertical feet. What are the minimal vertical requirements for base jumping? [ 06-04-2002, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

About 2.5 weeks ago a couple came off of Rainier. They were 3 days late in coming off of Liberty Cap after they summitted via Liberty Ridge. Their climb was to last 4 days. It lasted 7 days. They made an emergency phone call at the Shurman Camp to tell people they were okay. One person had a part of his pinky taken off due to frostbite. One of the persons on this climb is a friend of a friend. Speculation by Stefan in regards to this past rescue: Maybe the person (without the hardshell)came down the Emmons/Winthrop glacier. Maybe he came to Camp Shurman and made the emegency call from the camp. Maybe the rescuers told him to descend from the camp and meet at St. Elmo's pass to pick him up. Maybe the helicopter pilot decided St. Elmo's pass was a better pickup than Glacier Basin......... [ 05-30-2002, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

"Burgstrom" ???

If you helped them Terminal Gravity, you would have put yourself in danger due to the weather conditions. You would probably be in the same position they are now. Rescue people do not go out in the weather conditions they were experiencing for this reason.

My compliments to your writing Terminal Gravity.

REI owns something like 40% of Arc'teryx.

Ditto on the shameless plug for today!

You wear neon spandex. You subscribe to Outside magazine.

Helicopters and snowmobiles are not allowed in wilderness areas or the NCNP for “recreational” uses due to their motorization. That is an example of consistency I appreciate from my government. Thinking about this topic brings me to the thought that some day there will be a heli-hiking operation……

oooh largest glacial system in the lower 49. did you know that the Garibaldi Neve is supposedly larger than all the ice in the Lower 49 COMBINED!!![/QB] Dru, have you ever heard of Alaska?

I agree helicopters are less obtrusive to areas than snowmobiling at this current date. I am asking for equitable management within the governmental guidelines. Non-motorized access should mean non-motorized access. And motorized access should mean motorized access. Would your opinion still be the same if snowmobiles made no noise and were totally electric? Technology may make that happen some day. For example on my consistency philosophy. A friend of mine was helicoptered out of the Okanagon due to a knee injury. He had to pay for the helicopter. I know of somebody else (a friend of a friend) who was helicoptered from a recreational boating accident by the Coast Guard. No charge for the helicopter rescue even though it appeared it was a more substantial rescue. Yes, two different federal government agencies but completely inconsistent.

And some positive ones…… …..you go climb a mountain and the only other people you see are your buddies. …..you experience a cloudless weekend. They are treasured. …...knowing this is the largest glacial system in the lower 49. …..knowing the NCNP mountains have the most vertical gain in the shortest distance from valley to summit in the lower 48. …..knowing you have several thousand choices of peaks to climb. …..you know what deep snow means. …..you post on cascadeclimbers.com.

IMHO: I don't care if heliskiers use the areas. More power to them. Just no Heliskiing in NCNP and no heliskiing in wilderness areas. I believe heliskiers are allowed to go anywhere that snowmobilers can go and vise versa. You can't exclude one motorized activity and accept the other. I will send this on to the proper authorities too.

Those details are pretty good robertm. Nice pictures.

How do you know that was dog pee and not human pee?

Can anybody provide me with a DETAILED description of the Beckey-Schmidtke route on Nooksack Tower? I find the Selected Climbs description and Beckey #3 descriptions to be vague. I do not trust the "Selected Climbs" after it recommended the Bedayn Couloir as a decent on Goode.....

As of this weekend, it is milepost 18. See the second report on this website. http://www.turns-all-year.com/tripreportfr.html

Northwest Youth Corps. They work specifically in the outdoors. Based in Eugene, Oregon. I worked as high school teenager for this group during the summer.

Freeclimb9: I said "if" the Forest Service was held accountable. I have seen that they are not accountable. I can dream for accountability from the Forest Service. All others: A lot of you complain about the land not being free for public use. THE LAND IS FREE FOR PUBLIC USE! It is just that the trails and and pit toilets at trailheads are not free.

People pay for fishing licenses. This is recreation. (You still pay state taxes.) People pay for sno-parks. This is recreation. (You still pay state taxes.) You all would pay the fee for climbing Denali. (You still pay federal taxes.) I bet you all would pay if the Forest Service was held more accountable for the money for trail fees. I agree the $400K toilet at Washington Pass was a waste of money. The vast majority of people who use that facility do not or will not ever buy a trail park pass.

The highway is NOT going to open this weekend. Check out the artillery!! http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/regions/NorthCentral/Maint/Area3/nc2002/NCProjectedOpening.htm

A long trail/run scramble I did in a day last year was American Ridge. Started at Goat Peak trailhead and finished at Peak 6162 above Cedar Lake doing a total of 8 peaks. Mostly class 2 and some class 3. About 35 miles. Came down the Mesatchee Creek to a bike where I rode it back to the Goat Peak trailhead. Lots of peaks for class 3 scramble at Road's End at the end of Twisp River Road where you could easily connect them.

It looks like they aint going to open for awhile now...but who knows...... http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/regions/NorthCentral/Maint/Area3/nc2002/NCProjectedOpening.htm

I talked to a very nice lady at the Log House Inn at Marblemount. She gave me the low down on the USDOT operation at the North Cascades highway. Here it is..... They might be open for 1 lane operations on May 3rd. They tentatively plan for the opening on May 10.