Stefan

This is not a troll. That is what they said. Annual Fee is proposed at $60.

The reason for the increase is basically for a higher level of service. For example, they said people complained about the rangers not being at their stations for taking permits--due to limited funds. MRNP would like to increase the time for rangers at the service desks. BUT my point is this: If MRNP NEVER required a fee, then people wouldn't complain about the rangers not being there, and service would NOT be required. But I have a bigger problem. MRNP is only asking for in the range of $250K to operate the whole damned thing. Fine. Why couldn't the park service just get $1MM from the defense budget?????? I am sure the defense budget will not miss $1MM out of $550Billion!!!!!

I was at the meeting last night in Tacoma. About 20 people attended the meeting. The park service went into more detail and discussion of their proposed plan (they have 4-5 options) to increase the fee and level of service. I encourage you to show up at the next one December 17th at the Mountaineers at 6:30.

If you have been on Liberty Ridge during the summer months you will understand why people don't climb Willis Wall--you constantly hear rockfall and icefall on the wall.

Climbing is a hobby. That is it.

They gate Chinook Pass at the Cayuse Pass turnoff.

Standard route off of Dorado Needle is via the north ridge until you come to steep snow (180 feet) on the east (may be melted) and then you have to contend with a bergschrund to access the McAllister Glacier later in the year. The north ridge is low but solid class 5. The NW side of Dorado Needle could be in the class 3-4 range. Early Morning Spire best way off it is probably through a minor class 5 climb just north of Marble Needle (8401) and south of Praying Mantis (8360+). Go over Marble Needle and down the SW towards the McAllister. There is a minor class 4 section to get down off of Marble Needle. I have seen Beckey's route around the 8000 foot pass north of there and it did not look appealing with all the glacial breakup on the western slopes of McAllister. I did these both last year. Though, not up the standard tough routes.

I don't know if you just rock climb, just alpine, or both. I only like to do Alpine stuff and I keep it below 5.8 so I am not sure of all the mental capabilities of doing 5.10+ sport or trad. Mentally what helps me is this: finding high carbo food that I like and eating something every 1 hour--I keep stuff in my pockets and eat on the hour (and not much each time), taking a sip of water every 15 minutes from my hose. I don't break much to keep my muscles moving. And most importantly having a partner who is motivated to do what you are doing. That partner thing is the key. The combined power of two climbers is much greater than the sum of two separate climbers.

Cavey, I think you would stop for anybody regardless of how bad you think they were a fuckwad. Most mountaineering folk are nice and would help out for another mountaineering dude in hlep. Now if you were some Frenchie dude in lycra then I would believe you.

Take a bike!!!! Unless of course you like walking the logging roads for up to 3 hours! A bike also speeds up the time.

You know what's better than Cytomax? Frozen concentrated orange juice. I buy it by the caseload when the cost goes to $.60 a can and keep in the freezer. One disadvantage.......can't really carry a can for the next day. But for one day outings, I highly recommend frozen concentrate orange juice. And if you use a bladder, buy the non-pulp stuff as it could get caught in the hose.

My main project: Learn to walk again.

Don, let me know if you want to email John Roper. I know him pretty well.

One answer. Pay toilets.

I know of some people who have done it. Mainly in the spring. During a "normal" winter the road is stopped at the Mt. Baker highway making access to this peak longgggggg.

quote: Originally posted by fern: you ask for the most remote range that people almost never visit and then lament the lack of photos? does the paradox escape you? Point well taken Fern. I thought at least some climbing junkie would have been there and taken pictures and put it on a website somewhere......

I can't find a decent picture of any peaks in the Omenica or Cassair range ANYWHERE. Does anybody have any suggestions?

The best wands I found are not orange or yellow or red or any fricken color, but something with reflective tape. I found that you can still see the wands if they are black in a snowstorm, but you can't see ANY fricken wand if they don't have any of that specialized reflective tape during the dark with your headlamp. Where to get the reflective tape? Hell, I don't know, but it should be reflective tape that acts like a back reflector on your car. This way, when you get to one wand in the dark, you just scan the slope with your headlamp for the next one wand, and walla, it appears like a "little flash" in the night. [ 11-26-2002, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

quote: Originally posted by Fairweather: "I'm still not happy that the summit registers are not wheelchair accessible" Is this point, re The Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA), not just as valid as radical environmentalist's readings of The Wilderness Act? I am happy when I see the ADA used to blunt obnoxious interpretations of The Wilderness Act of 1964. Here! Here! I am in a wheelchair at the present time! More power to us!

That area bites? Really? I have always thought of going there.......

Most people of Islam are peaceful people. You only hear about the bad people. Same thing happens here in the U.S. Most people are good people you only hear about the bad people.

Dru, I am still in a wheelchair! I am just thinking of possibilities for my next vacation.....

So what is the least visited mountain group in British Columbia? Would this group also be considered the most remote in British Columbia? (By remote, I mean from any logging road.) [ 11-22-2002, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

I don't know who did it, but I was told it was done....how? I don't know if they stayed all the time on the ridge proper.

Another hardman tour: Pickets traverse staying on the ridge proper. I think this has been done...it doesn't have to be new to be hardman stuff.