stephen, regarding ames i meant the hose; not the entire area (which last i heard is technically "closed" to climbing anyway). from what i hear the first pitch of the hose gets beat to hell pretty quick and becomes too thin.
michael, i hope to get on the whorehouse hoses in a couple of weeks or so.
led, i don't want twins; i want halfs (also known as doubles). either way, i would most certainly buy two.
listening to this discussion (and thinking about where and what i want to use them for) i'm pretty tempted to go with 75's ...