Unlike mr Richy Nogg, I will not bow to any lycra clad sporty. I climb it all sport, trad, alpine, etc. Anyone is good at only one thing is limited to that endeavor. Although I have incorporated a few "sporty" words into my vernacular I pity those who only know that sport. Even your hero, wolfgang gullich did alot of sick trad. I like both trad and sport. I tend to gravitate towards trad because I seem to have the "juevos" that it requires to climb on gear but I enjoy getting up a challenging sport route as well. They are not the same and in some senses uncomparable despite what is posted on this site. If Dr. Flash Annoying continues to spray out the holier than thou sport propaganda I will do my part to spout about the virtues of "true" and clean climbing. Not trying to troll blatently but your an cocky sob Flash.