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Try this http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/viewpoll.php?Poll=320

Nobody mentioned Sagitarius yet. Seems like Tex might like that one.

You might want to check out Zoom. It's got some bolts, but you'll probably be placing some gear too.

Just in case you're not primarily interested in fall-intensive sport-climbing with dicey clips, and value low-weight, low ropedrag, and versatility you might consider getting good quality wiregate biners and those super-thin (8mm dyneema, supposedly got 'em at PMS) sewn runners. A standard shoulder-length one of these tripled up is just as compact as your standard sporto draw. For super-lightweight you can go with nuetrinos or these dinky Kong keylocks they carry at PMS, but those tiny things occasionally scare people when contemplating a fall.

Nobody died when Clinton said God was on his side.

So I'm not sure I understand what makes Kerry so strongly negative. Granted, my impression is that he is not exciting and he does little to inspire me, but I'm baffled by this statement of intense negativity? Can you elucidate the top 1 or 2 points that qualify him for anit-christ status in your mind?

The rim of the Grand Canyon is a pretty amazing place, even at the totally crowded spots. I get really energized in the cab of my truck, driving through the pre-dawn city streets, peering through the holes in the windshield frost, waiting for the heater to kick in, with that big cuppa joe and some punk rock blaring, heading out to the mountains for some all-day sufferfest.

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Those f88kin mounties must really like Squamish, because everytime I go up there, there are topropes strung up all over Neat and Cool and Burgers and Fries. F88KIN MOUNTIES!!!!

Your verse doesn't match the cadence of the original in the last 5 lines.

Every once in a while it's pretty fun to turn on your little walkie talkie thing at the ski resort and beep people over and over again. Sorta like doing prank phone calls I guess. How childish .

Would it annoy you guys more or less if I picked up a piece of bark and talked loudly to the bugs inside?

I am personally offended by anyone using hiking poles. Why the f88k should you need those in the wilderness? Bringing some of your city comforts with you. Gag me. Especially the collapsible ones. Sounds mechanized to me. Illegal in the Wilderness. Also, they distract me. They transform the usual human profile into something new different and ... scary. If you use hiking poles in the wilderness around me, where I'm trapped, and can't get away, expect some rudeness in return.

Yeah, either that or the fact that Classic Crack has totally bomber jams, it's clean, it's easy to get to, and it's an easy walkoff. Not to mention that it's a "classic". Maybe that's why this guy decided to solo it? Sometimes it isn't all about RURP. Sometimes just maybe a soloist climbs near RURP because RURP is on something the soloist wants to climb. Sometimes maybe it's not just to be near RURP. Sometimes.

I find it weird how some people seem all freaked out by others talking on a cell phone, but don't seem to mind if it's two people having a conversation.

Climb: Three O'Clock Rock-Big Tree 1 and 2000, Cornucopia, Magic Bus(?) Date of Climb: 4/18/2004 Trip Report: Spidey running it out Negotiated climbing day at a very late hour (9:00 pm the night before) and made a vain attempt to dredge up a partner. Being realistic, I started plotting solo plans, but amazingly the mysterious Spiderman replied and I had a partner. CC.com rocks . Things looked bad and wet on the way there, but it turned out to be a great day for climbing. This is a lesson for you: If the weather looks like crap, just go to Darrington! We started out on Big Tree 1. Fun crack climbing! Lesson #2: if you want fun crack climbing, just go to Darrington! After the first pitch though you get that Darrington effect. No, I'm not talking about the tricky topography that makes the rock above you look black and licheny but below you look clean and white, I'm talking about the way it f88ks with your mind. When you're at Darrington you will often be climbing slabs and you have to be able to trust your feet. Well this "effect" I'm talking about happens on low angled routes with features (like Big Tree 1, p2). You romp up these features and you get OK, just OK, gear then the features end, and you start to freak out. Funny part is, you are usually only on like 5.6 slab, but you get so used to the features, you forget how to trust your feet. Anyways, that's my excuse for all the whining on Big Tree 1, pitch 3 . ANYWAYS...Big Tree 1 is cool, fun, bring a rack of singles to 3". Then we did Big Tree 2000 which is more the standard D'Town fare, bolts and continuous friction in flatty knobs and dishes. Two fun pitches from the top of Big Tree 1, p1. Cornucopia! Excellent climb. Low variation takes three old bolts on small fun slab to fun fun fun easy flake. Then a couple of excellent slab pitches. The third is especially great, long, sustained and a bit heady. Cornucopia p3 Finally we went exploring out on the left side and tried this mystery climb with a ton of knobs. Old bolts, so could be serious if you fell, but pretty easy. We did two pitches. They were ~5.6, 5.8. Looked like the climb continues? Magic Bus? It finally started raining for real, and Spidey's feet hurt so we went home. Gear Notes: stoppers single cams to 3" might want double TCU's Approach Notes: Road is easily passable with my high clearance 4WD. There are a couple places you might need to carefully nurse a "regular" car over. If you got a choice, go for the high clearance ride.

Yeah, or using knives, or the lawnmower, or driving a car. Gripped is FOS.

FF, It is all relative. You probably would not be freaked out if someone climbed a 30 foot high ladder over a concrete floor. The danger to the soloist was probably (hopefully!) about the same magnitude. That said. Soloists should realize that often their feats do make people uncomfortable, and thus soloing around them is intruding on their space. Of course, with some people it makes them uncomfortable if you don't belay with the biner through the belay loop. Should you conform to their belay specs in order to be polite? It's a tough question, and a good discussion topic. Am I being inconsiderate when I ride my bike (solo) in the street? If I get thrown over the handlebars for whatever reason and smash my (hlemeted) head, I'll be depending on others to scoop me up and bring me to the hospital. Is that being inconsiderate? Are bikers riding helmetless being inconsiderate to everyone they ride by?

Why should a crag be any different than somewhere else? Granted, different places have their respective written or unwritten manners guidelines. Is it more permissible to chafe people with swear words at a crag than, say, walking down a crowded city sidewalk? At a Mariners game? At the beach?

This is possibly the most asinine comment I've heard. And that's saying something. What's worse, asinine or worthless?

FF, Compare and contrast your post here to your other post on the "safety dance". In that thread you were all bothered that someone was butting in about something they didn't consider safe but you did. In this thread you seem to be taking the opposite role. It may help to think of things in a relative sense! Iain's post is perfect! Oh, and another thing. I think you are under a misconception. I believe I climbed yesterday with the antagonist in your story, and according to him he was bouldering, not free soloing.

Excellent read. Just this last weekend I drove with the family down to Portland. We passed by those cooling towers (I thought they were the never-used ones, is that right?), and had a discussion about nuclear power, and why people didn't like it. How they produce poison that's very tough to get rid of, etc. Now I see this website. Crazy! I'm debating showing it to my kids. What do you think?

You can use this link http://students.washington.edu/dbb/darrington/guide/ which will let you go back. However, anytime you click on a link from cc.com it opens up a new window anyway.

It's like offering a nice quality steak on the menu in a seafood restaurant. Nothing evil about it, just offering the customer a little variety.