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Study design issues aside, the study does not say that "Stretching Doesn't Prevent Injuries!" What it says is "These data don't present conclusive evidence that Stretching Does Prevent Injuries".

Yeah you don't do it like that in real life. You only do it on the internet. Typical internet dweeb.

OK good point. Then let's bring it to infractions where noone is inconvenienced one iota. For example, carefully driving through a red light at 4 am after verifying that noone is around? Or perhaps driving in the carpool lane when noone is in the carpool lane and traffic is moving smoothly in the SOV lanes. I posit noone is hurt or potentially hurt by these actions. Though there are many traffic nazi's who would get all bent out of shape about these things. Are you one of them?

What I am talking about is actions that do not hurt others at all, or perhaps by an infinitesimal amount. I do not consider an action of this type, one that affects noone adversely, to be inconsiderate. Why do you?

That's the type of shit I absolutely hate. The pricks who, even though they know they are only going to be inconvenienced by ".007 seconds" think it is their duty to stop those terrible lawbreakers for no other reason than, "he's breaking a law that I don't have the balls to". Fuck off traffic nazi Scott

What about the rules regulating respecting peoples' personal property (e.g. do not steal peoples' carabiners off of their backpacks even if they don't look like they're climbers)?

I think Arizoner is either on DST or ST all year round.

I got the day off on Friday. Anybody up for climbing or peakbagging or skiing or both? Limitations: rehabbing a rotator cuff, so would like to limit climbing to slabby or easier juggy stuff if steep. No hanging and twisting off of hand jams please. Would like to enjoy the sun. Just got backcountry skis, so could go ski something, but I'm a newbie in terms of avalanche awareness and I don't got no beeper. Static Point (you'd need a mountain bike)? Tooth? Dreamer ?? Castle Rock? Slabby L'worth stuff? Anybody know if Garfield is melted out yet? [your suggestion here]? Send me a PM if interested.

There's always the classic, "How does this fucking [insert belay device here] work again? Damnit! I can never figure this out!"

Hey Ken, You looking for someone to carpool with?

I always enjoyed that Al Pine fellow. Check this one out, or this one was pretty good too. Oh, back in the day, *sigh*. Too bad they banned that guy.

I think you only wanna use a directional when bringing up a second if 1) you are very confident the directional is strong enough to hold both you and your partner in a toprope fall and 2) if you have a feeling that the second is gonna be doing a lot of hanging on the rope. Although this is not really to the point since if we had 1) we wouldn't have a sketchy belay.

No monetary compensation Fern, but you do get the awesome reward of being a HERO for saving civilization from degradation and destruction. Also, calling the narc number won't get you put in jail like running someone off the road or shooting 'em will.

Here's what I like about HOV lanes. I get to drive in them legally when I'm carting kids around. Makes no sense really, since we're not keeping another car off the road or anything. But it sure is fun zipping by all you other suckers stuck in the mire.

Which three? Mattp, Off and you?

But Klenke, Lars specifically based his argument on keeping up with the traffic and not holding people up in the carpool lane. If the problem was so bad that everyone did it and the carpool lane was bunged up by the illegals, then you've violated his assumption. So, think yourself! Besides, "if everyone did it" is one of those bogus "slippery slope" arguments. If your argument requires the addition of your own "if" assumption; then usually, your argument has a hole or two.

No, because like AK said, it's cutting in front of other people. By using the carpool lane solo you are cutting in front of all the other solo drivers. So you very marginally hold all of them up when you have to merge back in.

Another, less cynical, response, is that there is quite an archive of amusing postage available. Especially with the new and improved search feature. If you view who's online, often the lurker types will be browsing some old unknown thread. Click on 'em. Sometimes they're a pretty fun read. Just try to resist the urge to resurrect them though OK? Why live in the past?

That dental floss made by Gore, "Glide", is most excellent though.

People are getting soft and weak in their cushy little CC.com home. They are now resting on past laurels and harking back to the "good old days", or as they say here on cc.com, "back in the day". Sometimes you gotta make your own fun. Uncle Traskie can't buy you a toy every goddamned day.

Simple loop with a pad for the shoulder seems pretty good (and cheap). I've not liked the mulitple loop ones, and especially hated one of those double ones. But I didn't really give 'em a chance either.

Buying a six pack is usually a good way to get through that Sultan Stop light jammup.

Nothing worse than being in a traffic jam when you're in a hurry . Sounds like that's exactly when you get stuck in them. Traffic jams are a lot easier to take when you've anticipated them and can just relax and use that downtime to meditate about climbing or something. Usually you can listen to NPR too, but not this week. Freakin' pledge drives

Gawd! Why would you want to do that to yourself? I can think of quite a few more places that I would rather burn two days calibrating myself to. The blooming trees are nice, but you really gotta love those buzzing power lines. Beats Vantage I guess, when the trees are blooming.

Don't forget about how much the ticket will raise your insurance. Or if you've already got a bunch of tickets whether it will cause you to lose your license. Last year or so there was this news story that's so good it must be an urban legend, but it was some lady who got in a wreck on 405 while using a cell phone and was in the carpool lane with a blow-up doll. Caused major traffic stoppage. Is the bus, a bike, or an actual carpool an option? Or perhaps a shifted work schedule?