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Nice TR Michael! I especially liked the line "picking pine needles out of my eyeballs". Man, that climb had everything! This part does not look fun

(Thinker spoke of this on that other thread, but I don't want to dilute the hate over there.) Rec.climbing is basically now dead. It is an interesting concept of where the addicted sprayers all got off to from there. If you migrated here, anybody wanna divulge who you are/were? Thinker, did you post on rec.climbing I know Stinkwagen is here, as well as Sketchball, Cairns, Fern, Scott Presho and Rob Williams. Anybody else?

Peter Puget is right that the Spanish election results will probably embolden terrorists and maybe help out their cause. However, I think the effect of the Spanish election on increasing terrorism will greatly pale with respect to the net effect of our Iraq policy. I have yet to see him bemoaning Bushco's missteps. Other points: don't hold your breath waiting for the Spanish to pull out of Iraq. We've obviously got some pretty heavy leverage on them evidenced by their "willingness" to go along with this Iraq farce to begin with. Something tells me that during his transition to power, Zapatero is going to find out the true motivations for his country supporting the Iraq war, and he might have a tough time backing up his words. Though the Madrid bombings were terrible, I think there is a silver lining to this in that the people in a democratic country were able to rise up against their lying government and it's controlling media and say, "enough's enough!" See this link Liars Lose: Regime Change In Spain, to take inspiration from this whole horrible turn of events. It's inspiring to see a country take a horrible massacre and use it to collectively move their country in a positive direction. Particularly when juxtaposed with our country that used a horrible massacre to justify tangential aggressive foreign policy goals.

WTF do you want you whiney ass MF? If you really were being sarcastic, then you must have been trolling. Real trollers do not cry about the catch being "too sensitive". That is being a poor winner, and also may cut down on future snares . Thus I think either your claim of sarcasm is whiny BS, or you're a p00r troller.

Does Matt's attachment work for anyone else? I am wondering if it is just my computer.

...and don't have a valid driver's license.

Driving without insurance is not very considerate to all the people you might hurt, kill, or damage via some simple mistake with your ton+ of metal. Too bad you got a ticket, but I think it's a good law to require liability insurance for drivers.

So if you're bankrupt, or heavily in debt do you get paid for doing illegal stuff?

New Spanish Leader pledges to pull out of Iraq Time to think up a new name for spanish rice!

Great idea Bug! (as long as you don't kill nobody). Everclear kamikazes work pretty well too. Tastes just like reglar vodka!

If you only flammed people who you noticed already made a habit of flamming people, then the only people to get pissed off would be the ones who deserved it That is, this way we won't have any "civilian" casualties.

The way I figure it, if you don't bitch when doods are keeping you awake at night, then you don't have to sweat being so damn quiet when you get up early in the morning.

So according to my calculations, we're in the clear for about another 2 1/2 years.

JEEZUS Just saw this IMAX movie about NASCAR in 3D down at the science center. Talk about a weird scene. That place was completely packed, y'know like, trying to get the shy people to move over next to the other shy people so there won't be single seats type of packed. Spied 3 or 5 NASCAR sponsor type Bud jackets n' shit. People were seriously excited about this. I mean it's bad enough to be all excited about going to some place where you sit in a crowd and pay 5$ for a hotdog and watch a bunch of loud cars go round and round, but it seems to add another dimension of uselessness to go watch a crazy fan adulation movie about it. Whoa. Trippy. I am such an elitist snob. I guess I sorta felt the same way going to some Rolling Stones concert in a giant football stadium and hearing every fucking song with the same damn chunka chunka chunka chunka 4x4 beat, and being all drunk and looking up to see 50,000 people all swaying in time to the same damn boring beat for every damn boring song... crazy.... Anyway...they did have some kool music in the soundtrack like the Ministry/Gibby song "Jesus Built My Hotrod" and ZZtop and some garage rock thing at the end, and Jack Bauer from "24" was the narrator. My kid seemed to like the 3-D effect. He just kept reaching out to try to grab the stuff. Luckily we were in the front row below the 6-story high screen dude

From the Forbes link "So, to review: Taxpayers are stuck with a program that costs 35 percent more than when their bamboozled representatives approved it last November. Top officials win golden parachutes stitched together by interests they have legislated and regulated. Trampled House voting practices, a federally funded TV deal for GOP political consultants, and a bribery probe all frost this ugly cake. This is why movement conservatives are so grumpy. They are sick of knocking themselves out to promote limited government and fiscal prudence, only to watch their solemn beliefs burn to a crisp in the increasingly third-world crucible called Republican-controlled Washington."

I meant that attacking Iraq was not fighting against terrorism.

OK, gotcha

I figured you'd approve of those sources. What do you think about the allegations of obvious Bush Administration deliberate lies of omission?

What's ironic about it? Spain wasn't fighting terrorism when they helped attack Iraq. Attacking Iraq has not weakened terrorists, but it has made Spain their target apparently.

Nope nothing on FoxNews yet... But here's a couple of other stories National Review Online cntrl F for "scully" Forbes Online Looks like FoxNews might be forced to cover it by tomorrow.

White allegedly purposefully withheld higher cost estimates for Medicare giveaway "The government's top expert on Medicare costs was warned that he would be fired if he told key lawmakers about a series of Bush administration cost estimates that could have torpedoed congressional passage of the White House-backed Medicare prescription-drug plan." "Cybele Bjorklund, the Democratic staff director for the House Ways and Means health subcommittee, which worked on the drug benefit, said Thomas Scully — then director of the Medicare office — told her he ordered Foster to withhold information and that Foster would be fired for insubordination if he disobeyed." "Scully left the administration and in January took a job with Alston & Bird, an Atlanta-based law firm that represents numerous hospitals and health insurers. He was exploring jobs in the private sector while he was pushing for passage of the prescription-drug bill, thanks to a waiver from Thompson that allowed him to conduct job interviews while he was still a federal employee." I am definitely biased to this whole thing, but this looks quite damning. And it's in the mainstream press too. I wonder if it's covered on FoxNews.com. Next stop...

The funny thing about this thread is that we still have more than a week of winter left!. LIVE FOR THE NOW! Don't waste your winter!

were's the "all of the abuv" butten?

Dustin you are correct that if a woman is turned off by that avatar, then she's probably not going to like this site too much either. That's too bad on a number of levels I think. This site with all the obvious blue-ball posters who at the same time seem to want to fight for their right to porn remind me of the scene in taxi driver where Robert DeNiro is so clueless he takes his date to a porn movie. And speaking of rc.com, found this there too.