johnny_destiny Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran- Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?" Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir." The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?" "No, sir," continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the senator asked. "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir." "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned. "By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered. "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked. "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered. "And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator. "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip. By the way, that senator was Al Gore Also: Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so- called "political prisoners." However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Sigh. Not this again. Check the past threads for a discusison of the Atta urban legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregm Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 the mohammad atta story has been around and is false. the isrealis detained a different man also named atta. the gore-north story sounds suspicious. do you have a reference? nothing like spreading lies to promote a political viewpoint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 what other myths can you come up with? are they true because they're untruths that have been propagated via email for endless iterations over the last 11 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Here's one that ain't a myth. Bush Sr. was business partners with Osama's father. Daddy bin Laden invested heavily in the Carlyle Group, Bush Sr.'s arms dealing business. Daddy bin Laden pulled out of the Carlyle Group shortly after 9/11 because it "looked inappropriate." Hmmm ... Bush Sr. and Osama Sr. sell weapons together ... and Bush Jr. and Osama Jr. are shooting 'em at each other. The Bushes are rich and powerful and the bin Ladens are rich and powereful. EVERYONE WINS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 The problem is that neither of these idiots are actually shooting weapons at each other. Although Osama has probably come closer to shooting a weapon than Bush. Anyone remember when one of Saddam's vice presidents challenged Cheney to a duel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Did Karl Rove really say "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans... ...unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 "Tee-hee! Politics are funny!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Aside from the details of covers ups of who shot at who first, and who sold what to whom, and who was detained by whom, what amazes me most is the sparsity of coverage on WHY terrorists would do what they do, much less recognizing that there is more than one reason. According to the Webster's definition, a lot of US foreign policy is terrorism. I am not even going to come close to claiming that I know all of the reasons or can offer an informed treatment, but "Because they're envious of our SUV's" seems, at best, like a wad of bullshit. What reading I have done, makes it seem much like people who don't like their countries being treated like colonies. Any informed opinions out there, or suggestions for good reading on the topic? Especially from differing points of view! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 You've probably already read 'A People's History of the United States' by Howard Zinn, but if you've not done so, you ought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I put this search into Google... "oliver north" "osama bin laden" 9 of the 10 hits on the first page were for urban legend and internet hoax sites that report the story as being bullshit. The 10th was a 404. I also found this..."I was at a UNC lecture the other day where they played a video of Oliver North during the Iran-Contra deals during the Reagan administration." Trask needs to show Johnny Bitchen some cut and paste camoflage skills. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Glen - There was an interesting article in the PI this Sunday, about a guy named Gold who had been a leading writer in a conservative think tank but decided to quit because he thinks the conservatives have lost their way. He says he is against the war because he can't see how we are going to solve anything by it. He says that America, as a nation should not be flexing its' military might so much because "you don't get greatness by pusshing people around. You get it by doing great things. " He also says, however, that the "peace movement" does not interest him because the voices against the war all seem to say that the whole mess is OUR fault and the take too much of a "blame America first" approach without voicing any recognition of all the good that we have done for the world. He says that the conservatives, who say they distrust big government, are forgetting their principles when they promote new laws that allow for increased domestic spying. He notes that "old-line" conservatives like Dick Armey have joined up with the ACLU on this issue. I don't know if he's written any books or anything, but you ought to check out that article. I thought I was a liberal but I agreed with just about everything he was quoted there as saying. It was quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Its "unpatriotic" to even question the propriety of American policy in the Middle East. Wasn't that what got Cantwell ... or was it Murray ... in so much hot water? The public demands unquestioning support and devotion to the dictator ... uhh ... president!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 DOESN'T ANYBODY HAVE A MEMORY AROUND HERE??! Oliver North said that stuff about Abu Nidal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Here is Abu Nidal in 1982: I believe that Osama was still pimping around in daddy's rolls royce at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 thougt it was rbw1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Hmmmm.....Abu Nidal's momma, with Ollie North's teeth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Isn't that the picture you tried to post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To_The_Top Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Jonny, now that you are back to your sinning ways, here is the link to this rumor: atta BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 What do you think Chris? Pumps or flats with that outfit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 flip flops, fur sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Maybe if I was in Veneta. But for a night on the town with my bon vivant I wanna look smart and sassy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 flip flops are verry stylish for the about town surfer want to be kind of girl if you are talking evening wear... I sugest strappy sandles. pumps are sooooo 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_destiny Posted January 17, 2003 Author Share Posted January 17, 2003 god damn ChrisT looks like yo mama hahahaha It may be BS but it got you all out and talking shit again. How was that Trask hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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