Dennis_Harmon Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 I haven't been on Mt Rainier since the NPS enacted the requirement that everyone go do-do in plastic bags and pack them out. I have lots of questions about the techniques required and am asking for answers. What if the bag ruptures inside your pack on the way in and covers the rope and gear with feces...should you bail, or just ignore the problem? What if your partner gets shit on his or her hands while crapping in the bag...and insists on cooking dinner? Is it advisable to wait to go until just before sleep...so you can use the fecal-baggie as a foot warmer? Do you have to return the stool to the NPS...or can you take it home as a souvenir? What if your partner gets tired and asks you to carry all the shit...should you do it or let him die? Any answers would be appreciated. Dennis Quote
Big_Wave_Dave Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 At the risk of seeming like an expert in this matter, here goes: Â Don't actually shit in the bag. Do it on the ground or snow than pick it up with the bag, turn it inside out, and pack it out that way. As I recall the rainier bags come complete with secondary bag, kitty litter, and so you should be pretty safe from ruptures, smell, etc. unless you are unduly rough with the package. Imagine the ignominity of taking a fall only to find out your gear is covered in the stuff... Â This method of course if for the individual user; for expedition/group use more creative direct deposit methods are usually employed ( with a bigger bag). Â Whatever you do don't trust the cleanliness of your teammates, much less their hands. Â I can't beleive it took a question like this get me to post.. Quote
icegirl Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 If you had a dog in the city, this would not be a question. Some of the doggy-poo bags are very technologically advanced for smell, isolation and containment these days. Check out your local pet store if you are curious. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 I poop in the toilet. You people are weird Quote
allthumbs Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Ok I drop coils Quote
Dennis_Harmon Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 BigWaveDave, I quote, "Don't actually shit in the bag. Do it on the ground or snow then pick it up with the bag, turn it inside out, and pack it out that way." -Maybe I don't fully understand the procedure... but if I scoop the feces into the bag and then turn the bag inside out, won't all the shit fall right back out and get my hands all icky. Sounds like you know more than me though, so I'll try it. Dennis Quote
KeithKSchultz Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Dennis, would you mind posting a recent picture so if I see you out in the mountains I can marvel that you are still alive? Quote
Dennis_Harmon Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 One more quick question...is it O.K. to burn your shit in your cooking pot with any excess fuel you may have. Does anyone know the official NPS recommendation? Dennis Quote
Raingoat Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 This is always an option... Â http://www.bumperdumper.com/ Â Tim Quote
Big_Wave_Dave Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Really Dennis. Stay at home for safety of everyone. Quote
Dennis_Harmon Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 Would all of the climber girls out there PLEASE stop PM'ing and E-mailing me with all of your offers of sexual liaisons. I already have a girlfriend. What, by the way, what is so sexy about shitting in a plastic bag? Dennis Quote
bellemontagne Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 There was a recent story on TV and a journal article in the JAMA. Apparently, if you shove food up your butt, you will defecateout your mouth. So, it should be pretty easy to defecate into the plastic bag if you hold it in front of your mouth. Should be pretty simple!!! Â Quote
Dennis_Harmon Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 Journal of the American Motorcyclist Association? Help! I can't find that article anywhere in that publication. Dennis Quote
russki82 Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 there's another way to do all this, we tried it recently on the Kautz route of Rainier...you dig a hole about the size of your toilet back home, then take a large trash bag and put it inside the hole, pinning to the snow with tent stakes or whatever. Now you got yourself a portable shitter...very convenient. Afterwards, just wrap it up in several more bags and you're good to go... Quote
Dru Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Use a cork while you are on the mountain. Remove cork afterwards. Quote
joekania Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 OK, I have to come clean. I dropped a Steamer in the mountains once, and now I can't keep him from posting on cc.com. Â Quote
klenke Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Is that how you guys do it up in Canada, Dru? Â Why not use duct tape instead of a cork? Duct tape works for everything (except for fixing ducts; bowel ducts excluded). Quote
Dru Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by klenke: Is that how you guys do it up in Canada, Dru? Â Why not use duct tape instead of a cork? Duct tape works for everything (except for fixing ducts; bowel ducts excluded). I got the idea from this weeks "Maakies" - see Maakies for details as this is one cartoon I will not be posting for fear of offending someone or other... Â In Canada, there is no mountain you have to carry your shit out with you from. Â Incidentally I find the broad leaves of devils club most useful for TP if by chance you run out. But you gotta wipe with the spiny side out!!! Quote
allthumbs Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dru: I will not be posting for fear of offending someone or other... shit Quote
Dru Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 The phrase "22lb. ass baby" I believe will see more usage in the future. Quote
texplorer Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Dennis, I can't believe you have defamed this website with this kind of post. I only come onto this site to get route beta and talk about climbing issues. Whatever were you thinking posting something like this? Quote
texplorer Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 PS Don't try to use your posts to attract women. The women here are extremely gulible and swoon to even the slightest show of masculinity (sk not included). Why can't we all be civilized on here? Quote
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