Dennis_Harmon Posted June 28, 2002 Posted June 28, 2002 I don't really give a frigging rat's ass if I was wrong or not. I've been wrong before, and I'm sure that I'll be wrong again before I die. That's called being human and actually taking a stance on an issue, rather than considering everything in shades of grey for fear that I may actually be proven to be wrong. Regardless, there are still too many bolts being drilled in my sacred rock and I want to know why? Stop it. There are future generations that might actually climb better than you ever will. Dennis Quote
Off_White Posted June 28, 2002 Posted June 28, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dennis Harmon: My name is Dennis Harmon and I live in Wenatchee. If you want to come kick my ass... better bring a lunch. Dennis But you'd have to supply an address, since you are unlisted Quote
Lambone Posted June 28, 2002 Posted June 28, 2002 I agree with jon. Most of the bolts that exist today wre drilled by the former generation of climbers in the 80's and 90's, mostly by middle aged folks. Â The youger generation that lack bolting ethics are ussualy too lazy to care about drilling anyway, they just go bouldering. Â [ 06-28-2002, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Lambone ] Quote
Bronco Posted June 28, 2002 Posted June 28, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Steep ground requiring one to grasp devil's club FUN FUN Is that what you're calling Mr. Happy now? Quote
Dru Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 I have just patented the Dirt Bolt, after extensive testing on the TOOF, North Gully of the Chief and other exotic locales. I expect Utah climbers to buy large quantities. Â Exact details are in the Pat. (US Pat. No 15497523-876A-G1) but I can tell you each DirtBolt is 1 foot long and operates on the approximate same principle as as a CO2-capsule-emplaced ice screw. See Cliffhanger for more details of our propietary placement system. Quote
RURP Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 This is RURP: The younger lazy generation comes out in droves to clip the bolts like everybody else. RURP has spoken. Quote
Lambone Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Yeah, but honestly, have you ever seen or heard of someone less than twenty years old drilling new bolts? Are the people coming out to sport crags in droves also drilling bolts? No, usually not. They come to sport climb to learn what climbing is all about via the "safest" method. Â Why don't you guys just come out and say it: Â you don't want any new climbers to get involved in YOUR "sacred" activity. Keep dreamin... Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 I noticed how on another thread someone was implying that I was Dennis Harmon. Kiss it to those people that think I am  Oh yeah chop more bolts chop more bolts Quote
RURP Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 This is RURP: Climbing and clipping those bolt routes is a passive form of endorsement for them no matter who puts up the routes or how old they are. I suspect that much of this activity is performed by those too lazy to learn how to climb without bolts or too ignorant to know it can be done otherwise or likewise too uninformed to know that bolts are an issue. Others do not care but maybe they should. RURP has spoken. Quote
RURP Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 This is RURP: Â Mr. Lambone says: "They come to sport climb to learn what climbing is all about via the "safest" method." Â If that is what climbing is "all about", I quit!!! Â RURP has spoken. Quote
Lambone Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Whatever man. Your an elitist prick. I hope in the next life you may know a world where every one lives by your standards. Good day. Quote
mikeadam Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Climb DUrt. it's way more interesting....and zero ethics hassles! Quote
Dennis_the_Menace Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 quote: Originally posted by greenfork: Originally posted by Dru: Dennis is pretty obviously an avatar of somebody on this board (im guessing Pope or P.Puget or likewise) and you guys are all Dennis Harmon == Dennis the Menace, for one. Â (they both don't know how to spell "veteran") http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=000116[ /QUOTE] Â I know Dennis the Menace, and you sir are no Dennis the Menace Quote
RURP Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 This is RURP: Mr. Lambone says: "I hope in the next life you may know a world where every one lives by your standards." Â Thank you! We should all be so lucky! Â RURP has spoken. Quote
mikeadam Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Tarzan bushwacking is pretty sweet too. I love trees and jungle missions...buildering is good urban assault training. Quote
Greg_W Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 quote: Originally posted by mikeadam: Climb DUrt. it's way more interesting....and zero ethics hassles! Bolts don't stay and no one can tell if you chipped the holds!! Quote
mikeadam Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 You are absolutely right! Kicking steps in dUrt is much more entertaining than kicking steps in snow. Â Although steep exposed heather...BAD! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Steep ground requiring one to grasp devil's club FUN FUN Quote
Dennis_Harmon Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 Dru, Where and when can I buy some of your Dirt Bolts? Will they be sold in Leavenworth? Maybe you could talk your distributers into re-soleing scuba climbing boots, as well. Just a thought. Dennis Quote
allthumbs Posted June 29, 2002 Posted June 29, 2002 dennis, tell your girlfriend to quit calling me Quote
Dru Posted July 2, 2002 Posted July 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dennis Harmon: Dru, Where and when can I buy some of your Dirt Bolts? Will they be sold in Leavenworth? Maybe you could talk your distributers into re-soleing scuba climbing boots, as well. Just a thought. Dennis dennis, dirt bolts are available only manufacturer direct at this time. send me $500 in small bills. Quote
Coondog Posted July 2, 2002 Posted July 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dennis Harmon: I firmly believe that so-called "sport climbing" together with rampant bolting of my beloved rock is spelling the death of my beloved sport, and that it is being done, largely, by an entire generation of spoiled youth of this country who have only taken, and taken, and taken... and have never been required to give anything back. Dennis, if you want to see less bolts, teach a gaper how to place a hex and how to get comfortable leading runout over a placement without worrying about falling to their death. Climbing grand-wall at Squamish a few weeks back some hotshit kid saw us headed up and actually told us "you're taking hexes? there's no where to put hexes up there on those cracks man." Frightening... Seems pretty simple to me: if people are afraid of using trad pro, they're goin to want bolts. And there's not really any policy-maker saying "thou shalt bolt here, but thou shalt get thy ass a massive fine for bolting there..." except natl park rangers I guess... Â For what it's worth, I'd be happy if I never have to use a hammer either. Â Wanted to tell you that if you want to bitch about Gen X-ers who don't do shit, you can kiss my ass, if you can find it after I get done working my 70-90 hours a week and driving an hour each way, but I don't want to offend your or anyone else. Â --Coondog. Quote
RURP Posted July 2, 2002 Posted July 2, 2002 This is RURP: Kick off the Scott guy who wrote this about someone's five year old son on the "Bolt Clipping" talk: Â "Your kid got tired? What a freakin wussie - maybe he was bleeding from the crotch as well, must have been time to change his panties." Â Moderators: Kick him off for good in the manner of Agent Orange who previously posted the most revolting attempt at "humor" I have ever read, likewise abusive to small children. Â Kick him off now. Do it. DO IT NOW!!! The limits of spray have been far exceeded. Â RURP has spoken!!! Quote
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