Obama Health Care heading south

[RedNose]

Best news I heard in 8 months. Fucking Big Deal by Joe "The Schmo" Biden is getting thrown back at him and Obumbles. Wonderful...

 

So how are all the metrosexuals of Leftern Washington doing. I'm having a hell of a winter. Been skiing a bit, not much fishing as things are tight. Hope you all can survive on beans and rice when the famine hits the big cities. Remember you can survive by subsistence as long as you live where you can gather and hunt. Although Seattle has a lot of rats and long pig...

 

Good day to ya all,

RedNose...blunder will be the next game

[tvashtarkatena]

A grade school civics text should clear this one up for you.

[billcoe]

Best news I heard in 8 months. Fucking Big Deal by Joe "The Schmo" Biden is getting thrown back at him and Obumbles. Wonderful...

 

So how are all the metrosexuals of Leftern Washington doing. I'm having a hell of a winter. Been skiing a bit, not much fishing as things are tight. Hope you all can survive on beans and rice when the famine hits the big cities. Remember you can survive by subsistence as long as you live where you can gather and hunt. Although Seattle has a lot of rats and long pig...

 

Good day to ya all,

RedNose...blunder will be the next game

 

Well, you trolled your first metrosexual there in short order Rednose...although just 1 is a damn meager catch (lets call me 2). Besides that, hasn't the bill for the health care hit you yet? Someone on this site was just bitching that the inclusiveness part of it has hit their wallet (ie, where tired old metrosexuals like tvash there with their unusual drips and canker sores in odd places have to be included and you pay for it in your health care bill.)

 

Beans and rice? Us metrosexuals are stashing Mountain House #10 tins this days. Fair trade, free range all natural!

 

Costco just finished running a MH #10 special. Turns out that there is a Mt House shortage, and it is making preppers nervous again as the same rumor as last year is that the gov't is buying up all available stocks, preparing for who knows what, some unknown gov't thing. The guessing game on what the gov't is prepping for continues other places.

[AlpineK]

Hey Rednose being rugged resourceful and all, are you a member: Grizzly Bear Fight Club?

 

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I've always had this desire to fight an animal. I would fight a pack of 50 squirrels, a few dogs, or something in that vein. I'd like to fight a dolphin or a shark, as well as several other marine creatures. Any sort of animal, I would probably fight if given the chance.

 

However, my biggest dream is to fight a bear in hand to hand combat. Bear are strong, tenacious, and have claws and teeth and whatnot, but they are easily distracted by honey and pickanick baskets. My intelligence would give me the upper hand.

 

[rob]

He'll probably spend the next 10 years thinking the health care bill has been repealed.

[prole]

Hope you all can survive on beans and rice when the famine hits the big cities. Remember you can survive by subsistence as long as you live where you can gather and hunt.

 

Nice little Jeremiah Johnson fantasy you got there. Too bad eastern Washington and Oregon are essentially wastelands and would become even more so were the populations living there to rely more heavily on its meager resources.

[tvashtarkatena]

It's nice to see a 'fiscal conservative' or 'small gubmint libertarian' or whatever moniker these self-styled revolutionaries like to cloak themselves applaud their highly paid representatives to essentially fuck off on the job on our dime by pulling a dead end, partisan publicity stunt. And here I thought lawmakers were actually paid to solve real problems.

 

Smaller (minded) government!

 

They could have opted for reforming the health care bill - removing the $600 1099 filing requirement (complete bullshit...Rednose has probably never heard of it) or the mandate (constitutionally questionable), but that would have required them doing some actual work, most of it without a photo op.

 

How about bringing the deficit down by a) cutting a now fantastically bloated military budget b) ending corporate subsidies and c) taxing the shit out of the wealthiest?

 

This bunch has yet to prove that it doesn't still have a huge corporate cock up it collective ass...just like last year's republicans.

 

Edited January 20, 2011 by tvashtarkatena

[KaskadskyjKozak]

 

This bunch has yet to prove that it doesn't still have a huge corporate cock up it collective ass...just like last year's republicans.

 

More "intellectual" arguments/verbiage from Tranny-Tina.

 

[Off_White]

Too bad eastern Washington and Oregon are essentially wastelands and would become even more so were the populations living there to rely more heavily on its meager resources.

 

Historically, both regions supported a substantial native population. There's a living to be had, its just not the same as the one we have right now. You're right though that most modern populations would have a tough time with subsistence living, but that's true pretty much anywhere in the US.

 

 

[prole]

Yep. Can't see today's descendants of the pioneers picking their way amongst the blasted birdshit-stained clumps of lava and basalt for long before they resorted to cannibalism.

[tvashtarkatena]

Provide these New Age Cavemen booze and weed and they'll do your hunting and foraging for ya.

 

Imagining eastern Washingtonians trying to survive in the wilderness paints an interesting picture. Most could go the first few months without catching anything and be just fine. Skirmishes over the last remaining ciggypoos would be a constant threat, however.

 

Living in the country and living in the wilderness are two very, very different things.

[prole]

[tvashtarkatena]

Rural post apocalypse survival 101

 

Step 1: Stockpile ciggies

Step 2: Develop tolerance for chemically enriched water

Step 3: Armor the doublewide

Step 4: Learn to prepare well marbled human meat and grasshopper

[RedNose]

Glad to see all of your boys are interested in politics and economics, too bad you don't understand who pays the bills. It sure ain't the liberal cunts that whine all day long over the conservatives.

BTW better check your geography lessons on where folks are at. Not everything appears as it seems bitches.

[olyclimber]

Right. Liberals don't pay taxes! Because they are communist.

[olyclimber]

Oh sorry, i mean liberals don't participate in capitalism.

[billcoe]

Glad to see all of your boys are interested in politics and economics, too bad you don't understand who pays the bills. It sure ain't the liberal cunts that whine all day long over the conservatives.

BTW better check your geography lessons on where folks are at. Not everything appears as it seems bitches.

 

Geography?

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Glad to see all of your boys are interested in politics and economics, too bad you don't understand who pays the bills. It sure ain't the liberal cunts that whine all day long over the conservatives.

BTW better check your geography lessons on where folks are at. Not everything appears as it seems bitches.

 

Actually, we do understand that. City folk pay the bills. Rural communities, on average, are subsidized 7:1 - fed money they burn:tax money they contribute. With Urban folk, its the 1:7. WA's ratios are about the same on the state level.

 

Without Seattle, Eastern WA would dry up and blow away.

 

This is good news for unemployed fishermen out there, though.

 

These numbers should come as no surprise to rural communities. Higher average incomes and higher populations densities...the math's not too difficult here.

 

But hey, if you want to play Jeremiah Johnson on our dime, fine. After all, we're not the one's whining about 'taking our country back' n shit - like the spoiled fucking entitlement cases that you are.

 

 

 

 

 

[RedNose]

tvashtarkatena, Boohoohoo I'm crying my eyes out for you and your ilk. Please do stay in the cities, rural America doesn't want you. Why? Because you piss, whine, moan and ask for government hand outs all on our dime. You actually think the "metro" citizens are paying our way? Huh, apparently you haven't looked around lately, but then that would take a mind that thinks logically and concisely which Liberal don't have. It's all how it feels and how warm and fuzzy you will feel thinking that government will take care of you from birth to grave. NOT one of my "rural" friends has that mentality although we do see it when Lower 48 city types show up during tourist season. Examples I don't feel obligated to post but I'm sure you get the picture. We are self reliant and city folks want Government to tell them what to do and when and how and to restrict freedoms that they deem as unnecessary.

 

I'm done with you folks for at least a few months. I hope you all stay where you are and don't tread on the beautiful landscape of Montana, Eastern Washington, Wyoming, North Dakota, Alaska and the Northern Provinces because every where the "city minded" folks come they bring their ideas and expect us to acquiesce without a murmur.

[Off_White]

Sorry Horatio Noseblower, but the TrashTart is correct. I'm a rural dweller, and I'm thankful for all those city folk and the taxes they pay, since otherwise all my roads would be potholed gravel.

 

Self reliance is a survivalist myth, a strong man and his gun is just meat on the hoof. Communities of people is the only thing that has survival value. There's plenty of that out in the rural areas, neighbors look out for each other, even when they don't especially love one another. Standing alone though? Hey, it didn't even work for the Omega Man.

 

You are aware that Alaska is the biggest recipient of federal dollars, aren't you? The entire state sucks on the government teat like fat little piggy.

[tvashtarkatena]

tvashtarkatena, Boohoohoo I'm crying my eyes out for you and your ilk. Please do stay in the cities, rural America doesn't want you. Why? Because you piss, whine, moan and ask for government hand outs all on our dime. You actually think the "metro" citizens are paying our way? Huh, apparently you haven't looked around lately, but then that would take a mind that thinks logically and concisely which Liberal don't have. It's all how it feels and how warm and fuzzy you will feel thinking that government will take care of you from birth to grave. NOT one of my "rural" friends has that mentality although we do see it when Lower 48 city types show up during tourist season. Examples I don't feel obligated to post but I'm sure you get the picture. We are self reliant and city folks want Government to tell them what to do and when and how and to restrict freedoms that they deem as unnecessary.

 

I'm done with you folks for at least a few months. I hope you all stay where you are and don't tread on the beautiful landscape of Montana, Eastern Washington, Wyoming, North Dakota, Alaska and the Northern Provinces because every where the "city minded" folks come they bring their ideas and expect us to acquiesce without a murmur.

 

My GF and I both grew up in rural communities. We both got educations and got the fuck out. While you're hanging out dreaming about the good ole days when the fish were plentiful, she's getting her Masters while working to make an even better life.

 

But we go out the Eastern WA all the time. We enjoy cycling those nice, new, expensive country highways that no one uses, which so often run along one of the numerous federal water projects, through all that subsidized cropland.

 

Not all of rural life in WA is ignorant, brutish and limiting, but too much of it is for my taste.

 

Nope. We're not complaining. Not at all.

[AlpineK]

Without a lot of big companies in the city producing high grade steel and guns you'd be defending yourself and hunting with a club. Living in the sticks sucks without big cities to supply your habits.

[tvashtarkatena]

Some rural folks are intimidated by and or envious of their generally wealthier, healthier urban counterparts, and those emotions, once filtered through pride, typically come out as anger.

[pink]

Some rural folks are intimidated by and or envious of their generally wealthier, healthier urban counterparts, and those emotions, once filtered through pride, typically come out as anger.

 

 

and pissed because u can make twinkies in ur bread machine and they can't

Edited January 23, 2011 by pink

[Lucky Larry]

Wikipedia

My spray in[brackets]

Health

The United States life expectancy of 77.8 years at birth[151] is a year shorter than the overall figure in Western Europe, and three to four years lower than that of Norway, Switzerland, and Canada.[152] Over the past two decades, the country's rank in life expectancy has dropped from 11th to 42nd in the world.[uninsured] The infant mortality rate of 6.37 per thousand likewise places the United States 42nd out of 221 countries, behind all of Western Europe.[] Approximately one-third of the adult population is obese and an additional third is overweight;[McFood] the obesity rate, the highest in the industrialized world, has more than doubled in the last quarter-century.[i consider it a disease of dispair] Obesity-related type 2 diabetes is considered epidemic by health care professionals. The U.S. health care system far outspends any other nation's, measured in both per capita spending and percentage of GDP.[Hollywood face lifts, Sport injuries, worn out geezers like me wanting another shot at it] The World Health Organization ranked the U.S. health care system in 2000 as first in responsiveness, but 37th in overall performance[overworked zombies]. The United States is a leader in medical innovation[robotic surgery]. In 2004, the nonindustrial sector spent three times as much as Europe per capita on biomedical research[go ask Alice, I think she'll know]. Unlike in all other developed countries, health care coverage in the United States is not universal[can't fix stupid]. In 2004, private insurance paid for 36% of personal health expenditures, private out-of-pocket payments covered 15%, and federal, state, and local governments paid for 44%.[good thing were not a social society into socialism(sic,sic)] In 2005, 46.6 million Americans, 15.9% of the population, were uninsured[they deserve it], 5.4 million more than in 2001. The main cause of this rise is the drop in the number of Americans with employer-sponsored health insurance.[read unemployed;@ $500 plus/head/month its a bargain for those working@$10/hr] The subject of uninsured and under insured Americans is a major political issue.[just say no, no we can't afford it; just scrape them off the streets, their socialists] A 2009 study estimated that lack of insurance is associated with nearly 45,000 deaths a year.[probably due to gun shot wounds] In 2006, Massachusetts became the first state to mandate universal health insurance.[obviously they don't believe in the Republic of USA] Federal legislation passed in early 2010 will create a near-universal health insurance system around the country by 2014.[near-universal,very very doubtful]

 

The United States of America (also referred to as the United States, the U.S., the USA, or America) is a federal constitutional republic comprising fifty states and a federal district.

 

One common modern definition of a republic is a state without a monarch.[3][4] The word "republic" is derived from the Latin phrase res publica, which can be translated as "a public affair".

 

[obviously, health isn't a public affair. More of a commie corporate one.]