O.B.A.M.A.

[tvashtarkatena]

No, YOU don't exist!

[olyclimber]

[KaskadskyjKozak]

No, I'm not interested in that kind of essentializing, arguments that rest on "human nature", "core problems", or "original sin". They're metaphysical nonsense better suited to theology than the study of society, much less campaign finance reform.

 

Human nature is metaphysical nonsense?

 

Marxists have trouble with human nature. (from each according to his ability, to each according to his need... hah)

[Fairweather]

It's been called the worst Supreme Court ruling since Dred Scott.

 

Not by a long shot. That distinction falls to Kelo v. City of New London (2005).

[ivan]

It's been called the worst Supreme Court ruling since Dred Scott.

 

Not by a long shot. That distinction falls to Kelo v. City of New London (2005).

that's like, your opinion man

 

might be a shitty ruling, but hardly at the heart of The Big Problem

[Fairweather]

Eminent domain has been at the heart of the problem since the Enclosure Movement.

[ivan]

Eminent domain has been at the heart of the problem since the Enclosure Movement.

kinda hard to build interstates w/o it though, no?

[Fairweather]

I thought that after 500 years of human heartache we had achieved a pretty good balance--before the Kelo ruling came along.

[ivan]

I thought that after 500 years of human heartache we had achieved a pretty good balance--before the Kelo ruling came along.

i don't know enough about the case to have an opinion - i recall it was kinda bullshit b/c it wasn't the state taking something for its own purposes so much as for giving it to another private group to develop, which does sound like bullshit

 

i'm sure kennedy was the swing vote

[Fairweather]

O'Connor was--with the libs voting for the majority!

 

Nope, you were right. It was Kennedy--siding with the libs against the common man.

[olyclimber]

well duh! libs are uncommom men (and women too!...all libards are feminist conscious). that's what so great about them? they're educated, so they think they are better than everyone. thats why they keep trying to save the world, whales, etc...they feel civic responsibility to take care of their inferior neighbors. But truth is we can't afford to take care of everyone at this point. those welfare queens, they'll have to take care of themselves.

libturds feel they can just alter the natural order of things with a wave of the hand.

 

[prole]

I thought that after 500 years of human heartache we had achieved a pretty good balance--before the Kelo ruling came along.

 

Oh please, for fuck's sake.

[ivan]

I thought that after 500 years of human heartache we had achieved a pretty good balance--before the Kelo ruling came along.

 

Oh please, for fuck's sake.

it does sound a bit drama-queen

[tvashtarkatena]

500 years of human heartache...

 

...that fuckin bitch deserves to die.

[tvashtarkatena]

You'd think that after, like, the first 100 years they'd at least be talking about a time out.

[Lucky Larry]

well, like deep throat said, "follow the money."

[billcoe]

well, like deep throat said, "follow the money."

She didn't make much...

 

and now...on a totally unrelated note:

 

[Lucky Larry]

I looked up conservative: keeping the status quo. Meaning-the parties in office may change but those who hold the thunder stick will never change. Power corrupts, absolute power owns congress. Every Prophet there ever was that preached love, kindness and charity to one another has been run out'a town. Someone that can give people something/someone/some group they can use for a scapegoat and they will rise to hero status. After all, who wants to blame them self for all the F-up misery?

[pink]

so i can still get a free pair of rockclimbing shoes and a free chalkbag then i was worried i wasn't going to be able to take a chick out to a nice diner to get what i wanted anymore.

Edited January 26, 2010 by pink

[Hugh Conway]

you can stil get a reacharound from me pink

[j_b]

An essential "human nature" is no more verifiable than is your great fuzzy kitty or the spaghetti monster much less identifying it by assigning it some characteristics, like "corrupt" over others, like "caring".

 

Human nature is just as readily studied scientifically as any other natural phenomenon. Decades of study have produced excellent, predictive models of how markets, relationships, authority, and other human nature-driven phenomena work. The assumed (and false) inscrutability of such phenomena springs forth from that most fundamental of human desires: to remain inscrutable.

 

These studies couldn't differentiate between nature and nurture.

[j_b]

It's been called the worst Supreme Court ruling since Dred Scott. Time will tell whether that's accurate or not. Ugh.

by your own admission, the whole establishment is practically in big business' pocket, and has been for damn near a century - i don't see how it can get much worse.

 

institutionalizing corruption is a lot worse than having to give the appearance of propriety.

[pink]

It's been called the worst Supreme Court ruling since Dred Scott. Time will tell whether that's accurate or not. Ugh.

by your own admission, the whole establishment is practically in big business' pocket, and has been for damn near a century - i don't see how it can get much worse.

 

institutionalizing corruption is a lot worse than having to give the appearance of propriety.

 

 

[j_b]

which big word is it that you didn't understand?

[pink]

which big word is it that you didn't understand?

 

well i suppose i could gurgle it but you've done takn care of that.