sklag Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Ok Looking for recommendations for packs, arcteryx khamsin 50 or cilogear 45 l pack? I'm using it for winter cragging in NH, Mt. washington technical ascents, general alpineness, maybe 2-3 day summer traverses of glacial terrain. Please advise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I really like the new Cilo45 so far. Carries quite well, good size, good functionality, good mobility when climbing/scrambling. I think the webbing used is much more supple then on the V2.5s. It is also much better sewn. Â I usual don't adjust the strap arnagment once I leave the car, just tighten them ect as needed during the trip. Prefer the 'strap-on' crampon patch over the pouch, seems more secure. Size wise I think it is perfect for what your doing, might be full-to-bursting on a few trips but for most it will be perfect. Overall very impressed with it, seems like they are getting to be a good streamlined pack that also is adjustable as needed. Â That said, for daytrips I REALLY like my Serratus Gennie, the 45 does not replace mine, nor does it replace a 60+L pack when headed out for 8-9 days. For 2-3 days, it seems unbeatable once fitted. But Arc'Teryx packs do not fit me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Might be a bit bigger than you want, but I love my Osprey "Varient 52". It has a lot of climber friendly features and rides like a Rolls Royce. I think you can stretch it to almost 60L with it fully extended. They have a smaller 37L version as well. Â Varient 52 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Cilo45 for sure. it packs down smaller than the Khamsin for technical climbing and is lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxtrax Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) My 2 cents is the Cilo 45. I own the 30 and have used the 20, 40, 45 and 60 and really like them all. That said, pack fit is the primary criterion for having a pack that will work well for you and it is very personal. For me the Khamsin and Khazri packs from Arc'teryx carry like absolute crap. But the guys I know who own them continually rave about them and say they are some of the most comfortable packs they've ever worn. Â Get to a shop and try some packs on then pick the one that fits you the best and has the fewest extraneous features and doo-dads that you'll just end up cutting off anyways. Edited October 12, 2009 by Maxtrax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndavidjr Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 MEC Brio 40+ is cheaper at US $86, probably lighter, and an excellent design for climbing. Â Arc Du Tuxuedo and etc. cost 3X more. Â http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442418945&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302700149&bmUID=1255476322876 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 MEC Brio 40+ is cheaper at US $86, probably lighter, and an excellent design for climbing. Arc Du Tuxuedo and etc. cost 3X more.  I'm surprised you're recommending overpriced crap. Wal-Mart has an excellent selection of backpacks at much more reasonable prices. This one includes two water bottles.  Remington Big Horn Backpack  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robpatterson5 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Having used the MEC Brio series I would not recommend them for alpine goodness, instead I would recommend the MEC Alpinlite or Genie 45. The Brio is much more of a hiking pack rather then something that you can really climb in. You really need to be able to remove the stays and plastic sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm surprised you're recommending overpriced crap. Wal-Mart has an excellent selection of backpacks at much more reasonable prices. This one includes two water bottles.  Remington Big Horn Backpack  Well it does have the dual carcinogen plastic water bottles and it does have the zippers that last almost a week. But I don't know if I'd like the camo, I mean isn't it bow hunting season? You could get shot or something.  and it's not properly named either, to pump up sales it should be the Remington Big Dong Backpack. Those people in marketing are too timid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndavidjr Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Â Redesigned a few years ago. Am suprised framesheet now non-removable. Bizarre & foolish. My framesheet is currently 900 miles from my pack. Â It's extraordinarily narrow sack; almost impractically so. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I really like Black Diamond packs. They carry and climb very well for me and have proven to be fairly durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 CCW Chernobyl  You could probably go to Randy's shop and watch him make it for you ..  Cold Cold World 413 Carter Notch Road Jackson NH 03846 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrogers Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 CCW Chernobyl  You could probably go to Randy's shop and watch him make it for you ..  Cold Cold World 413 Carter Notch Road Jackson NH 03846  Excellent pack, especially for ice climbing. I have stuffed a weekend of touring gear into it and it did pretty well if packed right. Superlight.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sklag Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Got a cilogear 40b, it's heavier duty construction, has a crampon pocket, and can extend to 60l. I think this is good enough for 2-3 day summer alpine, what d'ya think? should I have gone with the 45l? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I think this is good enough for 2-3 day summer alpine, what d'ya think? should I have gone with the 45l? Â I suspect you'll be fine. But you should probably put your gear into the pack when you get it and make sure it all fits inside... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 will a Walmart pup tent fit in one of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackers Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 will a Humane Society pup fit in one of those? Â Yep. Definitely. Want pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I think that's a good choice, and I'd throw out the suggestion that if you can't fit the gear for a 2-3 day summer trip into a 40L pack, with lid, then you might have too much gear, rather than too little pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sklag Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Well, the way I looked at it was this way. If the 40b is 42 liters normally stuffed, and the 45l was 45 normally stuffed, then that's a difference of 3 liters (yeah, people from the midwest can do simple math). I would be very surprised if I ever missed that 3 liters of space at all. Now I just hope all my stuff will fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 will a Walmart pup tent fit in one of those? Â Depends on how fat the chic that popped it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Piston Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Like Danielpatricksmith I too really like the Black Diamond packs for climbing. I have also come to like the Osprey Aether 60 as an all around weekend climbing pack. It is really comfortable carrying up to 40 pounds of gear, is stable, and is reasonably light. It isn't as "technical" as some of the others, but works well for me. It all depends on your needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sklag Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Ok, just got the cilogear pack today... Impeccable quality. Can't wait to get out and use it some. Maybe I wished it was a tad larger, but then again, maybe that's a mindset that needs to change! If need be, the extension collar does extend pretty far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 which one did you get? I would like to head about what you think after a trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sklag Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 oh, I got the 40 b, because of the crampon pocket and that decreases the likelyhood of spilling the contents of down products into my crap, while maintaing the waterproofness of my new event shells. That's just my opinion though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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