billcoe Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) Tomorrow DMM will be publicly unveiling their new Cam which they are calling "The Dragon". Designed around the twin axle Black Diamond design, the DMM engineers will be trying to achieve what should normally be mutually exclusive goals of both a lighter cam, and a smaller cam angle (stronger/grippier) of 13.75 percent. The cams will have the extendable Dyneema slings as well. http://www.dmmclimbing.com/news.asp?nid=216&ngroup=1 Pricing has not been announced. Being assembled. Edited for the speling police LOL: thanks Sean Edited July 16, 2009 by billcoe Quote
Moof Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 The cams will have the expendable Dyneema slings as well. Most slings are expendable to a certain degree... Only the select few are extendable! Sadly I've also found out my belt is extendable too... Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 I think that BD might object slightly to your calling DMM's double axle units "Camalots". That is a trademark, I believe. Quote
letsroll Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Jlag you here that more gear for meeeeeeeeeee. well maybe...lol. Quote
billcoe Posted July 16, 2009 Author Posted July 16, 2009 I think that BD might object slightly to your calling DMM's double axle units "Camalots". That is a trademark, I believe. Satire is a protected class I believe, that was typed tongue in cheek....so nah nah nah ! Besides, isn't imitation really the most sincere form of flattery? I try joke make to comparisons shorten. Joke....NOT!? maybe Quote
counterfeitfake Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Wow, those sure do look exactly like C4s. Quote
Crillz Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Shiznit, I thought that purple coloured one was a C4. Same size/color scheme even. Quote
hemp22 Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Them's some sexy cams. Not that I need any more gear, but those do look nice. As usual w/ DMM gear, though, I'm sure they'll be pricey. Anyone want to wager on what they'll retail at on this side of the pond? I'm guessing $75 and up. Quote
G-spotter Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Them's some sexy cams. Not that I need any more gear, but those do look nice. As usual w/ DMM gear, though, I'm sure they'll be pricey. Anyone want to wager on what they'll retail at on this side of the pond? I'm guessing $75 and up. DMM stuff at MEC is the cheapest brand they sell - cheaper than BD, Metolius etc. - I bet these are less expensive than BD in Canada. Quote
hafilax Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Since DMM bought Wild Country it seems like the DMM branch is the high tech and expensive side. DMM biners are the most expensive of the lot at MEC. The cams just happen to be the least expensive to produce as far as I can tell. My gut tells me that the cams will be tantalizingly more expensive than the C4s. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Mmm ... DMM ... This thread almost makes me want to go climbing. Or at least to the store to fondle some new cams ... Quote
wdietsch Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Since DMM bought Wild Country I thought it was the other way around, WC bought DMM ? Quote
billcoe Posted July 17, 2009 Author Posted July 17, 2009 DMM bought WC in like 96 I thought, but Simon from DMM was saying that they are separate like last year when he was discussing the DMM contract they have for manufacturing the sexy and amazing WC Helium Biners. Oh well, either way I suppose. They make great stuff. I need new cams like I need hemorrhoids, but I'll probably have to go out and buy a couple of sets immed... Ugggghh NO! Must... resist ....gear....tractor..... beam....Uhhhg.... Quote
crackers Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 A group including the senior directors of DMM Engineering bought Wild Country back in '96. DMM Engineering owns DMM the climbing gear company. DMM the climbing gear company does contract manufacturing for Wild Country, which is also owned by DMM Engineering... Or at least, I *think* that how it works. Quote
hafilax Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Either way, I like the move that DMM is making. The new Shadow Secure biners look like a slick speed locker for first bolts and anywhere else that a biner breaking would mean disaster. They have a little thumb toggle that switches from free to locking. Quote
selkirk Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 OMG! Bugger, I just went through this with Master Cams!! mumbling to self "don't need more cam's." hit self with stick. repeat I'm beginning to see a future where I have at least 4 cams in every concievable size, and my rack weighs too much for me to do anything but lay on the ground and admire it! but how I do love the new DMM Alloy Offsets !!!! Quote
ScaredSilly Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Does anyone else find the name ironic. First we have Camalots - a very nice play on cams and what they do. Also on the well know fictitious city of Camelot of medieval times. Which some take the liberty and add mystical creatures such as dragons to. BTW While the double axial patent has expired other parts "I believe" have had subsequent patents due to improvements. Quote
Sherri Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 [ ...but how I do love the new DMM Alloy Offsets !!!! +1!!!! I love mine so much that if I'm leading with someone else's rack, I bring my set(assuming that the other person hasn't yet discovered their magical powers) Quote
catbirdseat Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Those DMM Offsets are so nice to have at Joshua Tree and Tahquitz. There are places those babies go where absolutely nothing else will work. Quote
selkirk Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I've only got three of the alloy offsets so far (but a full set of the little HB brass offsets) and am definitely planning on filling mine out. And Sherri, why would you ever climb on anyone elses rack? All other racks are clearly inferior!! Quote
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