tvashtarkatena Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Rob, I think you're sufficiently immersed, you're dripping on our carpets. I feel empowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Is that the circle were the guy gets in the middle and gets the crap beat out of him?? Been in one of those before. Scared the crap out me. Came out okay. Why is this not a surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwoofalot Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 We are in desperate need of campaign finance reform and lobbying rules. We can't do that otherwise the American Socialist Party (the democrates) will lose all of their financing, and we will be down to just one party the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwoofalot Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I wrote in Colin Powell as I refuse to choose the worst of two evils this early in the process. Oh yeah, he's squeaky clean. The most squiiest and cleaniest out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrogdortheBurninator Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 obama wins georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Tennessee for Clinton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Clinton un-wins OK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 don't you just love our political system where the few get to decide for the many? You mean only the people who choose to participate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 will be an interesting night for the democrats. california is going to be the deal breaker if there is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Still a horse race for both parties. I think if the Rs put up McCain, he will beat H. Clinton but Obama could beat him. I think if the Rs put up Romney or Huckabee it's all going to come down to how many Evangelicals show up to vote. It's such a crap job at the moment I wonder why so may people ran, and I think it won't be the end of the world if we get another R president as the next four years at least are going to be about cleaning up the mess the previous administration is leaving behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 13 Baby Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Ya gotta admit, its a great show watching the GOPers eat their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I was impressed with the long line and continuous stream of people going in/out of my precinct. I overheard a woman say to her friend, "All I see are Obama posters. I think we are fucked". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I like Obama but I dont think he can win the presidency, so I am backing the bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 Looks like Hillary might head out of Super Tuesday with the lead. I've heard the conservative pundits salivating over the prospect of her proposed mandatory paycheck deduction for healthcare. Nobody likes to be forced, you've got to couch it as a choice somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I like Obama but I dont think he can win the presidency, so I am backing the bitch. I was thinking the exact opposite. clinton vs mcain = mcain would win + the likelihood of the mn gov. becoming the vice prez nom. nooooooo! obama vs mcain = close call, depending on the issues and voting population. Sorry Porter, but I think its too soon and too close to call clinton. I liked Bill Clinton as prez. Yet I think enough is enough with the dynasty of the bush's and clintons. Time for some fresh blood and someone owing less paybacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 I didn't like either, but I disliked the second Bush more than the first. As for the Clintons I'm sure I'll dislike Hillary. The Clintons had their time now they need to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 6, 2008 Author Share Posted February 6, 2008 2/9 Louisiana Primary 67 delegates Nebraska Caucus 31 delegates Washington Caucus 97 delegates Virgin Islands Other 9 delegates 2/10 Maine Caucus 34 delegates 2/12 District of Columbia Primary 37 delegates Maryland Primary 99 delegates Virginia Primary 101 delegates 2/19 Hawaii Caucus 29 delegates Wisconsin Primary 92 delegates 3/4 Ohio Primary 161 delegates Rhode Island Primary 32 delegates Texas Primary 228 delegates Vermont Primary 23 delegates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Its just McCain and the Huckster for the repubs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Its just McCain and the Huckster for the repubs now. The political compass updated their site with the 2008 primaries. I knew there was a reason I though Richardson was a decent fellow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendershot Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 That Chuck Norris endorsement goes pretty far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 chuck norris doesn't endorse. he farts, and that fart is then president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Its just McCain and the Huckster for the repubs now. Why do you hate Ron Paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share Posted February 7, 2008 Its just McCain and the Huckster for the repubs now. Why do you hate Ron Paul? lol, totally forgot about him. he somehow reminds me of Ross Perot. he does have 16 delegates and could stage a comeback. hopefully he'll continue to be allowed in the debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Looks like Hillary might head out of Super Tuesday with the lead. I've heard the conservative pundits salivating over the prospect of her proposed mandatory paycheck deduction for healthcare. Nobody likes to be forced, you've got to couch it as a choice somehow. You and the WSJ editorial page are on the same page today...sort of... "Most experts calculate that a national mandate with subsidies like Mrs. Clinton's would enroll about half to two-thirds of the uninsured, less for a voluntary plan and subsidies alone. But such guesswork is pointless without the basic enforcement assumptions, which Mrs. Clinton refuses to provide. She's more interested in wielding what she calls "a core Democratic principle" against Mr. Obama. "My opponent will not commit to universal health care," she said Saturday. The logic of Mr. Obama's approach is that policy makers should target those who are priced out of coverage. The Census Bureau says 38% of the uninsured earned more than $50,000 in 2006, 19% above $75,000. They aren't a major public policy problem -- except that a big reason they lack coverage is because it is more expensive than it needs to be thanks to government market interference. And 29% earn under $25,000, which means they probably qualify for existing subsidy programs like Medicaid or Schip but haven't enrolled. The news here is that all of this is being exposed now, and by a fellow Democrat. Many Americans are uncomfortable with the coercion of the mandate -- and not all of them are Republicans. The California health-care overhaul was recently done in by liberals concerned about its consequences for the working poor. The political lesson that Mrs. Clinton learned in 1994 wasn't about compromise or market forces. It was that a government health-care takeover can only be achieved gradually and by stealth. Her individual mandate is an attempt to force everyone to buy into a highly regulated and price-controlled system where government redistributes income and dictates coverage. We assume the McCain campaign is paying attention." If you add a mandate to the existing model you're essentially just forcing people to subsidize the existing players. Seems like the worst of many options, short of transferring control of the entire sector to the government. My personal fantasy... Transfer tax incentives to individuals rather than employers, allow any citizen of any state to buy insurance from any provider in any state, add in HSA's that can accumulate assets from one year to the next, and give people on medicare/medicaid incentive structured food-stamp style funding so that they can go to whatever provider they want and pay up-front, instead of being at the mercy of the dwindling number of providers who are willing to lose money on every medicare/medicaid patient that they see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 All we need to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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