archenemy Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 I need a pair of very, very, very warm gloves for a friend who always has cold hands. Gloves must be waterproof and not mittens. Cost is not an issue--I can't stand the whining anymore. What gloves do you suggest? Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 OR Alti? Never owned them but they're billed as the warmest gloves OR makes I think. Quote
fenderfour Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 The issue is "gloves" once you seperate the fingers it's a lot more difficult to keep them warm. Get any old pair of gloves with a shell and a liner and add one of those disposable heat pack thingies. I usually put it between the liner and the shell on the back of my hand. The warmest gloves I've used are Dachstein boiled wool mitts. They are the shizzle. Quote
fern Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 if cost is not an issue then those battery powered heated ones from the Sharper Image might be good. Unless said hands are super tiny, BD Guide + heatshake packs are good. If opinion can be swayed to the mitten side, boiled wool are absolutely the best. They can be totally soaked and still pretty warm. Tough to find around here, but can order them online from Ortovox. Quote
Sherri Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 warmest gloves in the universe right here: Pearl Izumi Lobster Glove These gloves will stop the whining. I've got Raynaud's(which makes extremities hypersensitive to cold), and even on a 2-3hr bike ride in wet, sub-40 degree temps, these gloves keep my hands unbelievably toasty. I wish they made them for feet, too. Quote
archenemy Posted December 14, 2007 Author Posted December 14, 2007 Thank you all for your responses, I sure appreciate them. Quote
hafilax Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 I've never understood lobster gloves. The increase in dexterity is small compared to the loss of warmth. Oh wait, you use them biking so two fingers on the brake two on the bar. I get it. Quote
Sherri Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 I've never understood lobster gloves. The increase in dexterity is small compared to the loss of warmth. Oh wait, you use them biking so two fingers on the brake two on the bar. I get it. Agreed, the two-prong design probably has more to do with it being intended for use as a cycling glove than anything else, but the way they compensate for any loss in warmth by splitting the fingers is to have an soft interior sleeve that envelops each finger separately. So it's kind of like a finger glove inside of a mitten, if that makes sense. All I know is that it works. My hands are never cold. And that's saying a lot for me. Quote
FatTexan Posted December 14, 2007 Posted December 14, 2007 My fingers were cozy to -40 with these, you can't so much as scratch your ass with them on and don't tighten the metal strap retainer with your lips at those temps. They are mittens, otherwise second again BD Guide Gloves. eBay Army Extreme Cold Weather Mittens and Army Trigger Finger Mitts Quote
joshenj Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Ive got the OR Alti gloves while they keep my hands warm, (usually to warm) I rarely use them, sometimes in winter. I feel that i loose to much dexterity with them and are to heavy to take to just use in camp where i would use mittens instead anyways. But if absolute dexterity isn't an issue they are warm for me. Quote
letsroll Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 great question and great responces. After cold unjury to hands last winter they are very sensitve to cold now. Trying different things and it looks like I should check out the guide gloves. Those OR mits are just so huge. Quote
pms Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 (edited) joshenj, can you elaborate a bit about the dexterity with the monster gloves. Edited December 15, 2007 by pms Quote
kevino Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've read good things about the marmot work gloves... Quote
mike1 Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I've read good things about the marmot work gloves... I switch between the work gloves and the BD Guides. I think the BD's are warmer, but the work gloves provide more dexterity. What about battery powered glove liners? Seriously, you could wear the gloves in the off mode until it got too cold then just turn them on as needed. Hell, I may even look into it! Quote
plexus Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 I just ordered the Marmot gloves the other day. Hoping they get here today so I can try them out in the backcountry tomorrow. Quote
ketch Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 Archy, You've probably already gone there but I would consider talkin with her about Reynauds syndrome. Like sherri commented cold hands are usually how this manifests. But it is not just about the cold hands. It is a physiological response to percieved cold. The noggin just shuts down the hands "early." No matter what you do for gloves it won't help. Start with makin sure a hat is involved and good core heat regulation. All those little things so that the brain thinks it is warm. Of course warm gloves really help too but if it is connected to a physiological response it will be better to have good sleeves, good jacket, warm hat all those parts too. Quote
Sherri Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 It is a physiological response to percieved cold. The noggin just shuts down the hands "early." No matter what you do for gloves it won't help. Start with makin sure a hat is involved and good core heat regulation. All those little things so that the brain thinks it is warm. Of course warm gloves really help too but if it is connected to a physiological response it will be better to have good sleeves, good jacket, warm hat all those parts too. Excellent points, Ketch. I believe concept of "perceived cold" is significant in Reynauds. I can be perfectly warm in the house, but the mere thought of going out for a ride or run on a cold day will cause my fingers begin to discolor. Freaky. Quote
mike1 Posted December 15, 2007 Posted December 15, 2007 It is a physiological response to percieved cold. The noggin just shuts down the hands "early." No matter what you do for gloves it won't help. Start with makin sure a hat is involved and good core heat regulation. All those little things so that the brain thinks it is warm. Of course warm gloves really help too but if it is connected to a physiological response it will be better to have good sleeves, good jacket, warm hat all those parts too. Excellent points, Ketch. I believe concept of "perceived cold" is significant in Reynauds. I can be perfectly warm in the house, but the mere thought of going out for a ride or run on a cold day will cause my fingers begin to discolor. Freaky. No kidding! I've been dealing with the "white finger" for years and I never thought about it that way. Free your mind... your ass will follow. Quote
builder206 Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 OMG! I want those! If you can’t find them online, look for trigger finger gloves at Federal Army-Navy in downtown Seattle. They’re on 1st Ave. between Virginia and Bell (I can’t recall exactly where). No guarantees, but it’s the sort of thing they would have. They would likely have only the wool liners. It would be quite a surprise if they have the trigger-finger overmitts. In my experience those are uncommon but if you find them they are almost certainly authentic because there is not enough of a market for them to attract the Asian knockoff shops. But still, caveat emptor. Quote
wfinley Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 I likewise suffer from Reynauds. I've found that one solution is to carry two pairs of gloves - one well fitting glove that you use for most purposes -- but to also carry another pair of gloves that are 1 size too big. Once my fingers go numb there is nothing I can do to return the feeling until I switch out my gloves for my larger pair. I usually leave the larger pair on for 30 minutes to an hour before the numbness goes away and then I switch back. Mitts work well for skiing - but if you need to do any rope-work you need gloves and the larger size seems to enable me to still do things like clip biners and tie knots. I wear size medium and carry one pair of M tight fitting whatever gloves (I seem to trash gloves easily so I go through 2-3 pairs a season) and 1 pair of L Patagonia gloves that I've had for about 4 seasons. The larger pair doesn't see much use so they've lasted for a while. Quote
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