EWolfe Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 If we officially organized one, then we could say we were "practicing our religion". This could prove to be beneficial to access litigation, and strengthen our representation as a user group. Hell, people already think we're crazy. Adding a religious bent to our activity might even add some credibility. Thoughts? Quote
ericb Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 If we officially organized one, then we could say we were "practicing our religion". This could prove to be beneficial to access litigation, and strengthen our representation as a user group. Hell, people already think we're crazy. Adding a religious bent to our activity might even add some credibility. Thoughts? What would our definition of Hell be? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 If we officially organized one, then we could say we were "practicing our religion". This could prove to be beneficial to access litigation, and strengthen our representation as a user group. Hell, people already think we're crazy. Adding a religious bent to our activity might even add some credibility. Thoughts? What would our definition of Hell be? a sysiphean ascent of some useless choss-pile in a rainstorm with air temp of 33 degrees? Quote
billcoe Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 What would our definition of Hell be? a sysiphusian ascent of some useless choss-pile in a rainstorm with air temp of 33 degrees? No, that doesn't sound so bad: how about working in a windowless office 24/7. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 There is no Hell; there is only France. Frank Zappa Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 (edited) No, that doesn't sound so bad: how about working in a windowless office 24/7. how about Kansas? haha, ya beat me to the punch, hefe Edited September 5, 2007 by ClimbingPanther Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 (edited) can we make Tvash the devil? ooh, a new emoticon?!?! what does it do? ... gross Edited September 5, 2007 by ClimbingPanther Quote
XXX Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 No, that doesn't sound so bad: how about working in a windowless office 24/7. how about Kansas? haha, ya beat me to the punch, hefe I was actually thinking Minnesota, but I think Kansas fits the bill. Quote
ericb Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 can we make Tvash the devil? ooh, a new emoticon?!?! what does it do? ... gross Better yet....there is no food, and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter, hanging on a 7.7mm rope, 90 feet down in a crevasse with no prussiks. You have to set up a 9:1 z-pulley, haul him to the surface and...... Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 ...and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter... ... Quote
dt_3pin Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 Does this proposed religion involve peyote rituals? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 (edited) can we make Tvash the devil? Worship who you will, mortal ones, but expect not different results, for we all hang out at the same parties, and lo, you exist only as something to fuck with. Edited September 5, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote
RuMR Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 If we officially organized one, then we could say we were "practicing our religion". This could prove to be beneficial to access litigation, and strengthen our representation as a user group. Hell, people already think we're crazy. Adding a religious bent to our activity might even add some credibility. Thoughts? What would our definition of Hell be? cc.com...duh... Quote
RuMR Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 can we make Tvash the devil? ooh, a new emoticon?!?! what does it do? ... gross Better yet....there is no food, and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter, hanging on a 7.7mm rope, 90 feet down in a crevasse with no prussiks. You have to set up a 9:1 z-pulley, haul him to the surface and...... god yer stupid...just cut the flickin' rope and go home and write a novel about it and retire on the proceeds... Quote
RuMR Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 ...and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter... ... sounds like ewolfe's (aka pillow-muncher) fantasy of heaven... Quote
RuMR Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 can we make Tvash the devil? Worship who you will, mortal ones, but expect not different results, for we all hang out at the same parties, and lo, you exist only as something to fuck. that's it...now you've gone and gotten ewolfe all hot and bothered... Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 can we make Tvash the devil? ooh, a new emoticon?!?! what does it do? ... gross Better yet....there is no food, and Tvash is unconscious, smeared with peanut butter, hanging on a 7.7mm rope, 90 feet down in a crevasse with no prussiks. You have to set up a 9:1 z-pulley, haul him to the surface and...... god yer stupid...just cut the flickin' rope and go home and write a novel about it and retire on the proceeds... Whoever smeared me with peanut butter would be advised to heed this advice. I fuckin hate peanut butter. Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 I fuckin hate peanut butter. yeah, it doesn't make for good lube. try it on a sandwich Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 Isn't Will Gadd the deacon of the Church of Climbing? Quote
EWolfe Posted September 6, 2007 Author Posted September 6, 2007 Thanks for the thread drift, now can we get back on subject? As a user group and coalition, a religious doctrine would strengthen our stand. What are some of the experiences that enlighten or doctrines of climbing as a religious experience? Please be serious. Experiences that Enlighten: 1. Connection to the Earth 2. Celebration of life 3. Trust Others? Quote
AlpineK Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 a sysiphean ascent of some useless choss-pile in a rainstorm Go look at Carolyn's avatar....don't be dissing her. Quote
rmncwrtr Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Regardless of how climbers codify their spiritual feelings, much of what keeps them in the game is to be, literally and metaphorically, closer to this light. Few would argue that the mountains are their church and that a weekend wandering among them packs more spiritual wallop than visiting the second-rate cathedrals humans have erected to precipitate awe over God's greatness. And just as the church is an institution for understanding and worship, we attend the church of the mountains to understand ourselves and to worship--each in our own way--the creation. Climbers who have come to know the mountains feel hollow if they keep away. The mountains fill them with energy, give them peace, maintain their balance, connect them to a greater presence. And while few climbers actually intend to die while worshipping, they recognize the possibility, and accept that the rewards justify the risks. Says Harold Simonson, who has topped Rainier and a smattering of lesser peaks in the Cascades, "Just as the rewards of love are impossible to experience without taking an emotional risk, the personal rewards gained through climbing cannot be experienced without assuming some physical risk." EWolfe - The above is from an article by Andy Dappen I found a little while back. You might want to check it out. Quote
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