scot'teryx Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 http://cascadecrags.com/ Per Website: The Vertical World has acquired Cascade Crags Climbing gym. Cascade Crags has a strong history of serving climbers and outdoor enthusiasts in the Everett area for many years and the Vertical World will continue this tradition. The Cascade Crags staff will continue to give you a high level of customer service, classes and training programs. We look forward to serving you as the Vertical World in Everett. Please call us for more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 That's a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tivoli_mike Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 That's a bummer. Curious as to that response, I go to SG myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 The gri-gri-only belay device policy is fucking lame. I don't like the environment/clientelle of VW (only went there once). Monopolies/homogeniety are almost always bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The gri-gri-only belay device policy is fucking lame. If that's true, that IS lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Wait, I thought it was only gri-gris for the TR. Alpinefox is a rockstar and would only go there to lead, whip, and boulder, so he would be expected to use his own belay device. I actually like the pre-rigged gri-gris (Couloir, you're not expected to bring your own). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beecher Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 it sucks to pay one membership fee and have 3 or 4 gyms available, and that everett still has a climbing gym. i always forget how to use an ATC because of those damn grigris - i keep dropping my partner, darn that vertical world. mostly i wish the boulder problems were as hard as they are at SG! and that I could breathe more chalk dust at VW. i would also feel much better if my partner had a belay card on their harness and maybe if I could take my shirt off I could score a sweet college girl to take up the tooth. would you please get on that s%#t VW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 ooooohhh.....dueling climbing gyms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Aside from the fact I wouldn't drive to Seattle to go to a climbing gym, my objection is entirely personal. Rich Johnston, the owner, flat out ripped off a friend of mine for $18,000 in non-payment for gym construction. There was no question of quality, work performed, or ability to pay, it was simply because he could get away with it. This was for the gym down by the Fremont Bridge that was only open a little while before some software firm bought the whole complex of buildings for their "campus", giving Rich a huge profit in the process. Vertical World: The Wal-mart of climbing gyms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The gri-gri-only belay device policy is fucking lame. I don't like the environment/clientelle of VW (only went there once). Monopolies/homogeniety are almost always bad. I'm with you. I hate GriGris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beecher Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 All balls itch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 All balls itch sounds like your chin must be bristly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbcivil Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Personally, I prefer my ATC to what I've heard about the gri-gri but don't mind learning to use the gri-gri, just don't like having it be required. I'm also glad I just had a (phenomenal) indoor lead class as Cascade Crags. However, I hear VW requires 5.9 climbing for leads and I've only been climbing a few months, am not a solid 5.9 climber yet. This hasn't been a problem at CC because I've stuck to 5.8 or lower lead routes. I'm also nervous about what this will mean for the staff at CC, hope their jobs are all secure. They're awesome people and have been great helping this n00b get up to speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm glad that the place will remain open as a climbing gym. I'd heard that it has been going through some financial difficulties and I've been worried for some time about it closing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I just hope that they will continue the tradition of the dry ice festival. It would also be super cool if they brought indoor drytooling to seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I just hope that they will continue the tradition of the dry ice festival. It would also be super cool if they brought indoor drytooling to seattle. When I heard about the deal pending several weeks ago, I was told that the first change was that the ice wall was going to be torn out. The emphasis for Everett was that it was going to be remodeled to be the premier bouldering mecca? As for the gri-gri's, I like em' for the top-ropes because I often grab a newbie I've just met to belay me for Tr's. As for leading, you can use anything you like and I only have my buddies belay me. Dueling gym threads don't serve anyone well but I must say that VW has a deep base of people that climb all styles from the highest mountains to the crags and the VW kids their have proven their meddle on European soil against the best and perhaps climb harder than any adults here in WA at onsighting. Picking a gym may be like apples and oranges for you. It's all about fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekend_Climberz Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 There insurance didn't cover the ice wall anyway, and I'm sure VW doesn't want the added liability. Lame, Lame, Lame. LAME LAME LAME LAME LAME LAME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradbetty Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I've always loved the VW. The staff is friendly and the routes are usually good. I don't think the VW is the wal mart of the climbing world. They offer the employees benefits unlike wal mart and they don't sell all that silly crap. For those of you that only use a non gri-gri belay device that's like saying you only know how to use a manual vehicle verses an automatic vehicle. There's benefits to both. I've never owned one myself but I know how to use one and it makes for an easier indoor climbing time. Life is full of experiences. It's a shame that you only try something once and make an option based on one experience. Did you like broccoli as a kid? I didn't but I sure do like it now. Open up your minds and your body will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 ...It's a shame that you only try something once and make an option based on one experience. Did you like broccoli as a kid? I didn't but I sure do like it now. Open up your minds and your body will follow. I guess I should try jabbing a pencil through my hand again. It wasn't much fun as a kid when I tried it the one and only time in my life, but I'm an adult now and it might be fun! Thanks TradBetty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Stone Gardens: $43/month no initiation fee Vertical World: $49/month, $40 initiation fee Now it would be great if you could join VW and climb at any one of the four gyms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think one can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_warfield Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I guess I should try jabbing a pencil through my hand again. I still have a piece of pencil lead in my hand from a mishap in grade school. Good times..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_warfield Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Stone Gardens: $43/month no initiation fee Vertical World: $49/month, $40 initiation fee Now it would be great if you could join VW and climb at any one of the four gyms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think one can do that. A VW member can climb at any VW gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I have friends who live in both Seattle and Everett and it would be a plus for me to be able to head up there to climb with then at no extra cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradbetty Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 hey alpine fox...you should most definitely take that pencil to your hand again they have new lead that makes it painless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradbetty Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 hey alpine fox...you should most definitely take that pencil to your hand again they have new lead that makes it painless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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