psychedelic Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 ok so the version I heard was more bullshit... it was like.. he did it car to car in 5 hours. Quote
Blake Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 ok so the version I heard was more bullshit... it was like.. he did it car to car in 5 hours. Â Yak-To-Yak Quote
EWolfe Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Boy! Who hasn't had a string of days like that! Sounds like a typical weekend. Quote
Dru Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 I'd like to climb the west rib but don't want to waste time acclimatizing... Â Lycrababe not included. Some assembly required. Quote
MCash Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 but how could no one speak up about those dumbshits after 8 months? Does anyone read trip reports on that site? Â 1) Maybe lots of people at Summit Post are stupid. I know that Klenke and Allison both go there. Â 2) Maybe, also, people don't read trip reports there. Â Go there yourself, and tell me if it's a troll. I don't think so. Â I've read this before and was astonished by it. That TR was posted on SP before you could comment on trip reports. I've sure if it was posted now there would be many comments regarding the stupidity of the climbers and guides. Quote
Winter Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Shit this type of thing happens all the freakin time on Killi. I saw two guides literally pulling and carrying a South African woman to the top of the Western Breach in like 18-24" of powder snow. Quote
iluka Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 It just goes to show that Summit Fever can be a deadly disease. Perhaps they need to go to the talk advertised in another post on this site: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/534499/an/0/page/1#534499 Â As someone already mentioned... Kilimanjaro is notorious for this. Many of the guiding outfits, particularly the local ones, are not knowledgeable about these issues. They put forth such great advice as "Don't take Diamox... the people who take that medicine are the ones who don't do well on summit day." Ascent rates are way too fast in many cases. Add in some clients/climbers with little experience with altitude issues and you have a bad mix. A few client die per year and, worse, several porters die each year. Â I worked in Nepal for a stretch in Pheriche and interacted with lots and lots of trekkers on their way to Everest Base Camp -- a goal that holds a place in their minds that is pretty similar to the way a lot of folks approach Kilimanjaro . There were the scattered few who didn't have a clue about the altitude and its potentially harmful effects. The norm, however, was that most people knew it could be a problem but didn't know enough details to be able to recognize altitude illness or respond properly when it occurred. Quote
kurthicks Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 That is some scary shit. Are their real idiots out there like this? Â we ran into some climbers from western WA on Denali who all took Dex 'preventatively' once they got to 17k. All were hellbent on summitting. Quote
EWolfe Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Now I'VE GOT SUMMIT FEVER!! The summit of my buzz is not yet achieved! Quote
Blake Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Now I'VE GOT SUMMIT FEVER!! The summit of my buzz is not yet achieved! Â The only prescription... more cowbell. Quote
archenemy Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 A few client die per year and, worse, several porters die each year. Quote
texplorer Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Summit or Die  could be a good slogan for one of layton's t-shirts Quote
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