pup_on_the_mountain Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelic Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 ok so the version I heard was more bullshit... it was like.. he did it car to car in 5 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 ok so the version I heard was more bullshit... it was like.. he did it car to car in 5 hours. Â Yak-To-Yak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Boy! Who hasn't had a string of days like that! Sounds like a typical weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I'd like to climb the west rib but don't want to waste time acclimatizing... Â Lycrababe not included. Some assembly required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 but how could no one speak up about those dumbshits after 8 months? Does anyone read trip reports on that site? Â 1) Maybe lots of people at Summit Post are stupid. I know that Klenke and Allison both go there. Â 2) Maybe, also, people don't read trip reports there. Â Go there yourself, and tell me if it's a troll. I don't think so. Â I've read this before and was astonished by it. That TR was posted on SP before you could comment on trip reports. I've sure if it was posted now there would be many comments regarding the stupidity of the climbers and guides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Shit this type of thing happens all the freakin time on Killi. I saw two guides literally pulling and carrying a South African woman to the top of the Western Breach in like 18-24" of powder snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluka Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It just goes to show that Summit Fever can be a deadly disease. Perhaps they need to go to the talk advertised in another post on this site: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/534499/an/0/page/1#534499 Â As someone already mentioned... Kilimanjaro is notorious for this. Many of the guiding outfits, particularly the local ones, are not knowledgeable about these issues. They put forth such great advice as "Don't take Diamox... the people who take that medicine are the ones who don't do well on summit day." Ascent rates are way too fast in many cases. Add in some clients/climbers with little experience with altitude issues and you have a bad mix. A few client die per year and, worse, several porters die each year. Â I worked in Nepal for a stretch in Pheriche and interacted with lots and lots of trekkers on their way to Everest Base Camp -- a goal that holds a place in their minds that is pretty similar to the way a lot of folks approach Kilimanjaro . There were the scattered few who didn't have a clue about the altitude and its potentially harmful effects. The norm, however, was that most people knew it could be a problem but didn't know enough details to be able to recognize altitude illness or respond properly when it occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurthicks Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 That is some scary shit. Are their real idiots out there like this? Â we ran into some climbers from western WA on Denali who all took Dex 'preventatively' once they got to 17k. All were hellbent on summitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Now I'VE GOT SUMMIT FEVER!! The summit of my buzz is not yet achieved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirp Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Now I'VE GOT SUMMIT FEVER!! The summit of my buzz is not yet achieved! Â The only prescription... more cowbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 A few client die per year and, worse, several porters die each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Summit or Die  could be a good slogan for one of layton's t-shirts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Why stop there? Summit AND die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 How about "Summit AND die?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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