Survival Gear for Winter Routes

[Ducknut]

survival

[Gary_Yngve]

I take my big red poofy on pretty much all my winter trips.

[Cobra_Commander]

nice, I had a teddy bear once too.

[John Frieh]

Extra pair of dry gloves.

Extra bavaclava.

Hand warmers.

First aid kit.

[DirtyHarry]

The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock.

 

Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.

[Dru]

My turn to call BS Dru. Let's do a test. I'll have you lay down in the snow while I spend an hour making a fire. Sure I could get a rope under you or a pack. But if you have a broken back, which would you rather have under you, a nice flat foam pad, or a rope?

 

Tell you what - let's do this test, which is more reflective of real life conditions.

 

You and I will do an unequipped bivi somewhere. No tents, stoves or sleeping bags. Only normal day-trip winter climbing clothing and gear (pack, screws, ice tools etc).

 

You will get a foam pad. Hell, you can bring a Thermarest if you want. I will get a fire. You can't come anywhere near my fire and I can't come anywhere near your foam pad. We will see who is warmer through the night.

[Gary_Yngve]

Dru, when everything is wet, can you start a fire effectively with matches and a little firestarter? I don't think I can.

[Cobra_Commander]

The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock.

 

Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.

 

Those suckers are always breaking down.

[Dru]

Dru, when everything is wet, can you start a fire effectively with matches and a little firestarter? I don't think I can.

 

Yes, but I've had lots of practice. YEARS of firestartiung experience. And I have taken 4 (count 'em) NFLSe (National Firestarting Leadership School (ewe)) courses. And I wear a sheepskin vest. And I've chopped more bolts than you will ever place. So get out your measuring tape but you'll need a frickin' odometer to measure mine.

[Stefan]

I spent 5 minutes on a concrete driveway one time when it was 30 degrees out.

 

I became very cold very fast.

[Cobra_Commander]

when you have white gas, the world is your tinderbox.

[cj001f]

when you have white gas, the world is your tinderbox.

napalm my dear.

[Dru]

paraffin and dryer lint

[cj001f]

paraffin and dryer lint

Or Paris

[catbirdseat]

My turn to call BS Dru. Let's do a test. I'll have you lay down in the snow while I spend an hour making a fire. Sure I could get a rope under you or a pack. But if you have a broken back, which would you rather have under you, a nice flat foam pad, or a rope?

 

Tell you what - let's do this test, which is more reflective of real life conditions.

 

You and I will do an unequipped bivi somewhere. No tents, stoves or sleeping bags. Only normal day-trip winter climbing clothing and gear (pack, screws, ice tools etc).

 

You will get a foam pad. Hell, you can bring a Thermarest if you want. I will get a fire. You can't come anywhere near my fire and I can't come anywhere near your foam pad. We will see who is warmer through the night.

Okay, but I get to break your back first to make it fair.

[tomtom]

Please, make it stop!

[Winter]

If I dream of Paris Hilton tonight, I'm gonna find you Karl and pin your eyes open and make you watch 15 hours of Britnay Spears videos.

[Squid]

The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock.

 

Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.

 

Those suckers are always breaking down.

 

Mine won't pass emissions.

[Cobra_Commander]

they do smell bad on the outside, as they say.

[DirtyHarry]

Fucking Taun-Taun-necks.

[Dru]

The best winter survival gear is to bring a taun-taun along. If Squid had had one at Snocrummie the other day he could have slit open its belly and put Snugtop inside and then she wouldn't of gotten cold and gone into shock.

 

Foolish to venture into the mountains in the winter without one, I say.

 

Those suckers are always breaking down.

 

Mine won't pass emissions.

 

Better one that doesn't pass emissions than one that does, and is constantly doing it.

[dbconlin]

I say Yes to:

 

foam mini-pad (perhaps used in conjunction with pack, etc)

epic (or other ultra- ultra-lite bivy), maybe

down jacket

firestarter

handwarmers

"rasta kit"

 

NO to:

 

stove

fuel

beer

porn (or swimsuit issue or lingerie ads)

mp3s

[tomtom]

Which would you carry for emergency shelter (either weigh about 9 oz)?

[Billygoat]

So, How is Snugtop

 

 

I take food, extra water and clothes.

 

You can make a "pad" out if tree branches to insulate the victim. I think I will start taking a small stove and pot and some hot chocolate mix as it will give the victim something to do while I go for help or, if incapacitated, then the warm liquid would raise spirits

[AllYouCanEat]

You may find this thread useful

 

http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12768&highlight=unplanned+bivi

 

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