Japanese Gardens

[pope]

Here's the deal..everyone made their point. I think everyone agrees - even Toast - that Jap as used here was merely shorthand for Japanese and that their was no slur intended. Case closed on the RC forum. feel free to discuss this subject elsewhere.

 

Must agree with Toast. The point is not that everybody agrees that no slur was intended (even if that were true). The point is that the word "jap" in its conventional use is considered by many Japanese Americans (and some white folk too) to be offensive. That should be enough. Shame on you for using the word (your convenience, Toast's expense). Shame on you for having to be corrected by somebody who is offended. Shame on you for excusing your own clumsy writing.

[icegirl]

hmmm... though not in this context, but a little relevant.

 

jap to some comes across as JAP... jewish american princess.

 

offensive to more than just the japanese.

[slothrop]

Some white person should go chop all the bolts on Honky's Lament in Leavenworth. Pope? You can whistle this little ditty while you work.

[dberdinka]

Oh the consternation and outrage!

[foraker]

reminds me of a former oh-so-PC colleague of mine who once, when I commented about how the winter weather that day was a little 'nippy' replied "That's pretty racist, don't you think?"

[minx]

listen, i know that none of us wants to think we've glossed over a racist comment. let alone admit that it never occurred to us that someone might be offended. it certainly didn't dawn on me when i read the post that someone might be upset by it. my knee jerk response is "oh lighten up, you know what he meant and it wasn't meant as an insult"

 

that said, it certainly doesn't hurt to be made aware that somethings are still insulting no matter what the intention was.

[ChrisT]

as an aside, my son is headed for Matsuyama, Japan on 6/11 (i'm soooooooooo jealous!).

[Peter_Puget]

Here's a link of anyone want so see the thread this splintered from link

[Camilo]

Please don't refer to your carabiners as "biners." As a hispanic, it offends me

[catbirdseat]

If you go into the hardware store in Naches, don't ask for "biners". You should either ask for "b-eye-ners" or

"carabiners". I am not kidding.

[Alpinfox]

 

And why would anyone ask for "biners" OR "carabiners" in a HARDWARE STORE IN NACHEs?

 

And why/since when is "biner" a derogatory term for a Hispanic person?

[Ireneo_Funes]

So are you buying your climbing gear at the hardware store in Naches these days?

[Ireneo_Funes]

And why/since when is "biner" a derogatory term for a Hispanic person?

 

If you spell it "beaner" it becomes a rude racial epithet.

 

I never heard of it before I moved out to the west coast, though.

[Alpinfox]

And why/since when is "biner" a derogatory term for a Hispanic person?

 

If you spell it "beaner" it becomes a rude racial epithet.

 

I never heard of it before I moved out to the west coast, though.

 

Hmmm. I didn't know that one. I guess I should hang out with more rednecks.

[NTM]

beaner- you mess with one bean, you mess with the whole burrito (ie, pick a fight with one hispanic-american and you get 'yer ass whooped by all of 'em)

[Ireneo_Funes]

And why/since when is "biner" a derogatory term for a Hispanic person?

 

If you spell it "beaner" it becomes a rude racial epithet.

 

I never heard of it before I moved out to the west coast, though.

 

Hmmm. I didn't know that one. I guess I should hang out with more rednecks.

 

Are you suggesting I... oh, whatever.

 

Sometimes people use a slur without hardly realizing it. One time a guy I was in grad school with came up to me in a bar and said "dude, that Dig Dug machine just hebrewed me out of a quarter!" Of course he was from Alabama so that makes him an honorary redneck.

 

"Gyp" has lost most of its original racist association, but I think that's just because there aren't many Gypsies in the US.

[mec]

 

What a gyp...

[E-rock]

IS this the "Let's all sound smart about something it's easy to sound smart about" thread?

[thelawgoddess]

i'm finding it rather amusing.

[Billygoat]

I'm a cracker/wasp/ridge-runnin' grit, so

 

And I married an Irish/German/Native American, so that makes our son a....?

[Allan_Halsey]

Anyone climbed "Wetback Crack" lately? Is it dry?

[minx]

IS this the "Let's all sound smart about something it's easy to sound smart about" thread?

 

no that's the hex thread

[Billygoat]

[wags]

Anyone climbed "Wetback Crack" lately? Is it dry?

 

 

[Ireneo_Funes]

Let's get this back on track: what's the gear selection like at the Naches hardware store, CBS?