layton Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 Any job ideas for me? Need most weekends off, some weeks off, 20-40 hours a week? My ideas haven't worked out, the only one that may work is a Temp Agency: pro: make own schedule con: shitty job,inconsistant job openings I had more ideas but no such jobs exist for someone w/only two degrees. Jobs that suck: Haggen,cereal box gluing,fish processing,any job that requires excessive smiling. Quote
icegirl Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 registered nurse or surgical technologist working agency/per diem. Make your own schedule. Quote
jhamaker Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 I tried temp-ing. Time off is too unpredictable to plan anything. Often temps are needed for emergencies and wk wk-ends. So few of my partners have mid-wk off. I have recently used my climbing skills for a sm job - I rapelled/ascended over a cliff to fix a retaining wall. Quote
allthumbs Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 Just curious--what's the deal with so many climbers either unemployed or working shit jobs for no pay? Quote
krazy_1 Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 hey i don't have a shit job! but really, Trask don't you know that the things climbers get out of bed for is climbing. well other than to get another beer sometimes and food. michael my dear, try working at a sports/climbing/outdoor rec (not REI, go smaller) type shop. flexy hours, everyone there climbs, skis, rides, or does something of the nature. plus you get great deals on gear, which is usually ones #1 focus. you might have to share work on a weekend now and then but hell... you'll get free tickets, passes to lots of places, bennies and exposure to other options within the industry are endless. you just need to know your shitz. does that help any. [ 08-23-2002, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: krazy 1 ] Quote
freeclimb9 Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by trask: Just curious--what's the deal with so many climbers either unemployed or working shit jobs for no pay? If you have to ask, then you shouldn't know. Quote
cj001f Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by trask: Just curious--what's the deal with so many climbers either unemployed or working shit jobs for no pay? Becasue we are too good for corporate America ? Quote
Off_White Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 I dunno Michael, I've always found being the boss to be advantageous. Back in the dark ages (79 to 83) I used to have a shop sewing outdoor clothing, mostly pile and fleece. Scumbag Mountaineering was never a great living, but marketing trips to the Valley with a couple huge overstuffed duffles were always fun. I slowly drifted into construction, where I remain to this day, writing to you from Brand X world headquarters. You might consider being a carpenter, there is a significant demand these days: fewer strapping youth make their way into the field and the pool of experienced carpenters is steadily aging. The wages are okay for blue collar work, but the trick is finding a good employer who understands that work is not as important as life, and is amenable to being flexible. There is also the itinerant carpenter model, long a standard in climber employment: work awhile while living cheap, amass a cash stash, go on extended holiday, start again. A good carpenter can get work almost anywhere. However, you want to quickly move through the novice bumblie phase, because as Tommy Caldwell discovered, we are not starfish and those fingers won't grow back. Anyway, my apologies to all for posting on topic. Quote
gapertimmy Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 I hear the HC industry is quite glamorous, and you get free samples to fuel your climbing trips Quote
thelawgoddess Posted August 24, 2002 Posted August 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by trask: Just curious--what's the deal with so many climbers either unemployed or working shit jobs for no pay? i love my job. i don't make the pay i could demand elsewhere with my schooling, but right now it's enough to get by with (and -- with those pro deals, of course -- afford to amass gear with) ... and the benefits greatly outweigh my measly bank account balances. when i ask my boss for time off to go climbing, he gives it with a smile and says i should take more. Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 I met this guy on one of my bicycle trips who was a traveling finish carpenterl He had a van all tricked out with tool storage and folding door jig. also had room to sleep. Worked on rich peoples' houses in cool placesl Neat setup. Quote
layton Posted August 25, 2002 Author Posted August 25, 2002 My problem is that I am taking a year off before going to chiropracor school (4 year school). A chiropractor should be a great climbing job, but it's really hard to start something that needs any time put in to advance (like anything), and all the temps jobs are unreliable. I live in Bellingham, and don't want to move until next year. The other problem is Bellingham does not have any open jobs, such as any outdoor type store. I think I'm going to do temp, and when that falls through, it's road trip time. Maybe do some temp down where I'll be climbing. Express Personnel has many offices worldwide, so maybe I could hook up w/them in other towns too. So far their jobs really blow, and since I'm a new college grad, and male, I won't get any of the good office or construction jobs, just light industrail(assembly line). What I really would like, even if it's hard work, is something with a little autonomy to it, you know, not so many bosses, or a little flexiblity in the tasks... Thanks Quote
bobbyperu Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 it all depends on what youre willing to sacrifice for your happiness and freedom, if climbing is your passion and nothing else can step in the summer time or yearround for that matter, then use creativity, and determination, and you'll find yourself with all the time you want, now finding some sort of balance for all else besides climbing, well thts the hard part, just make sure whatever you do you do it with heart, ya got a passion? but mike layton i think alot of it is just bellingham, you think haggens bad try being a dishwasher at anthonys... i was over it on day 1, but i got the fuck out- quick ,and found somethin better, you do what you can with what you got, my girls in b-ham during the school year so i deal with the lack of good jobs, but then again, being able to ride baker every morning during a season like last winter makes it all worthwhile ! Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 Yo: hack. You're your own boss, and the pay is good. You come and go as you please. Don't wanna work tomorrow? Hah! Screw 'em. Go climbing instead. Don't know what it's like in B'ham, but in Seattle it was good. Coupla bills a day, albeit long days, and you meet interesting people. Just watch out for road-rage. And armed crack-heads! Quote
allison Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 Except for the part about always having weekends off, my suggestion is what has kept me in Top Ramen and gear for sixteen years: stagehand. Flexible hours, great overtime premiums, you work like crazy and then you don't at all, medical, dental, 401(k), challenging (when it's not boring), well the list goes on. I'm pretty burnt on it now, but it is a great job for a slacker outdoorsy type. Pretty much took the whole summer off this year. Quote
sk Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 why have a job at all??? realy, find your self a nice older sugar mommie/daddie that does not climb, who only wants to indulge you... climb all the time and let her/him foot the bill. Granted I have never seen this work, but it might be worth a shot... you cvould place an add in the personals that reads something like this. poor young person looking for rich older person to fill financial needs and take me out when I am not climbing. if interested call... Quote
E-rock Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 Grad student: You get paid to do nothing and it comes with benefits. My office-mate is on his 4th year as a Master's student. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 that only works if you're in the sciences. most grad students don't get paid to go to school. i certainly didn't get paid to go to law school!!! (i'll be paying for that for YEARS to come ... ) Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 do you have any filming exp? cause that is what i do...climb and film...looking for another before we head to south america if you got the exp and time... Quote
Necronomicon Posted August 25, 2002 Posted August 25, 2002 You should be my little bitch, whimpering and peeing on the carpet. Quote
salbrecher Posted August 26, 2002 Posted August 26, 2002 MEC in Vancouver is hiring! Here I come baby; cheap gear, flexi work times for students. Quote
carolyn Posted August 26, 2002 Posted August 26, 2002 If you can tolerate children, substitute teachers are usually needed everywhere. Often times they put you on a list and call you for the days you say you are available to work. You can say yes or no, or just not answer your phone. I know it pays fairly well out here. And shit, I think kids bring their own computers to the classrooms these days...you could get a laptop, spray on cc.com on the days you work...climb in the days you dont! There is an REI in b'ham, right? Dont they usually hire extra folks around the holidays? *gasp* Could be a way to get some of that gear you have been eyeing lately. Bartending is always fun, especially if they let ya have a few thru the day/eve. There are a couple camps in that area which run ropes courses...you could hang in the trees all day! Its actually a lot of work, pay is usually kind of shitty, and it is somewhat seasonal..but it IS fun and offers flexibility both in the amount and kind of work you do. Most places running ropes courses will teach you. If all else fails, go get a shit job(s) which pays well...suffer thru it for 4-6 months...save every penny you can...then travel for the rest of the time you have left before school starts. Good Luck! Quote
sexual_chocolate Posted August 26, 2002 Posted August 26, 2002 "If you can tolerate children, substitute teachers are usually needed everywhere. Often times they put you on a list and call you for the days you say you are available to work. You can say yes or no, or just not answer your phone. I know it pays fairly well out here. And shit, I think kids bring their own computers to the classrooms these days...you could get a laptop, spray on cc.com on the days you work...climb in the days you dont!" What is "fairly well", as far as pay goes? I'm just curious....I've had thoughts of teaching.... Quote
freeclimb9 Posted August 26, 2002 Posted August 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: [QBWhat is "fairly well", as far as pay goes? I'm just curious....I've had thoughts of teaching....[/QB] $40/day here in The Prophet's country. Starting salary for a certified teacher is about $16,000/year. Now West Coast . . . A single day's pay in L.A. for a subsitute teacher can go as high as $250. My Uncle subs in the San Luis Obispo area for $100/day. What it be in Oregon and Washington? Quote
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