Blakej Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 I was thinking of treking to camp muir and just watching to commotion the next day and get a feel for the mountain. Would a bivy sack be sufficient if the weather looked good or would this be a stupid rookie move? Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 If you can stay in the hut, all you need is a sleeping bag. I would stay outside in a bivy sack at Muir with nice weather and a warm bag. Probably a 10 degree bag or less. But, if you're just going to Muir, why not bring a tent? It's really not that far. Light pack or heavy pack, it takes 2-4 hours. However, the true trick is to go with someone and make them carry the tent. hehehehe Honestly, I can't remember the last time I carried a tent on a climb. Quote
olyclimber Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 Last time I was up there, there were two guys sleeping outside in bivy sacks....and plenty of room in the hut. Quote
Bandit Posted July 18, 2004 Posted July 18, 2004 Light or heavy pack? 2-4 hours to Muir? Ya, If you're Ed Viesturs. Quote
dlofgren Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Summertime at Muir; 20 degree bag in a bivy sack is just fine; much preferred to sooty water dripping off the ceiling in the hut. I'm thinking that Mike needs to get his ranger-boys & girls in there to scrub all that stuff off the ceiling. After all, that's what we pay them for, right? Service. With a smile. But Bill's right, if you're not going to climb, take a tent and luxuriate. Quote
corvallisclimb Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 However, the true trick is to go with someone and make them carry the tent. hehehehe Honestly, I can't remember the last time I carried a tent on a climb. Â mmm yes, just say you dont plan on taking a tent and depending on the partner they will be forced by there weakness into carrying the tent. Quote
Alex Posted July 21, 2004 Posted July 21, 2004 the hut sux. go with the bivy sac, wander a short way away from the crowds, have a nicer experience. Quote
assmonkey Posted July 23, 2004 Posted July 23, 2004 Nah, a stupid rookie move would be to leave your bag at home and just rely on your sleeping pad and puffy coat for bivy gear, leave from Paradise at 8:30p Friday night to meet your friends who went up the day before, realize at 2:30am that you are freezing your everlovin' butt off while "bivy'd" on the Muir snowfield and hike back down to the car. Â I'm not admitting I did this, but let's just say that the weather looked great last Friday, and it seemed like a good idea to travel fast and light sans bag when a certain posterier primate left home. Â - d u m b a s s m n k e y Quote
Scourge Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 Light or heavy pack? 2-4 hours to Muir? Ya, If you're Ed Viesturs. Same thing my geriatric brain was thinking. Believe it or not I still have the mind of a 24 year old. Quote
Buckaroo Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 I don't even use tents anymore except maybe at camp 4 to store gear. Bivy sacks are way lighter, quicker to set up and take up less space. Â You can climb 5.9 with a 12 oz. bivy sack but not with a 5 lbs. tent. Â If a blizzard comes in then dig a snow hole. Your not going to sleep in a blizzard even in a tent, but a snow hole is quiet. Â The only thing you have to get used to is the pikas and mountain rats running over your legs on summit bivies. Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 I'm not kidding about the time. Last time I went, it took me about 2-2.5 hours with a light pack and my partners 3-3.5 hours with heavier packs. We were not busting our balls either. Quote
DPS Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 Light or heavy pack? 2-4 hours to Muir? Ya, If you're Ed Viesturs. Â That seems like a very reasonable time, I have done in 1.5 hours with a light pack and I am no Ed Viestures. Quote
snoboy Posted July 30, 2004 Posted July 30, 2004 Hell, if Danny boy can get to the top in 2-1/2, then you sorry sacks of s%^& should be able to get to Muir in less than 4. Â I'm thinking that Mike needs to get his ranger-boys & girls in there to scrub all that stuff off the ceiling. After all, that's what we pay them for, right? Service. With a smile. Â I heard they are doing a major refit of the Muir Hut this summer. Quote
JoshK Posted August 1, 2004 Posted August 1, 2004 My favorite sleep on rainer was at camp hazard on a warm, fairly windless night. 20 degree bag, no bivy or nothing...just under teh stars...and plenty warm. Quote
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