Rev_D._Wayne_Love Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 How 'bout these? Talk about bringing climbing down to people's level. Now you can head to the cracks right after you pass your belay test at Vertical World!!! http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/camshome.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Yeah shit. Climbing used to be hard, for the hard. Now anyone can do it. I feel so unimportant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck_rocker Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Right on. Now I can go out to the crag, tie in to the gearloops on my super safe metolius harness and then take whippers on my new fangled rangefinder cams, as long as I am in the "green zone" I should be fine right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Yep. Anything to avoid actually having to think for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 The cool thing about gear loops is that it is just as safe to clip into them as tie into them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 In fact Metolius' site is just full of stuff you either don't need or can buy elsewhere for a lot less: Tape: http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/climbingtape.htm Gloves: http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/gloves.htm Labels: http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/gearlabels.htm Brushes: http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/boulderbucket.htm#M-16%20Brush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Seriously, athletic tape for a 3x markup, leather gardening gloves for a 6x markup and electrical tape for a 13x markup. Metolius sucks. I wish I hadn't bought a bunch of their nuts before I knew any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoubt Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 I think it's kinda hard to complain that the range finder feature makes placing cams too easy without making the same complaint about what the innovation of the SLCD itself did to placing trad protection in general. You can always go back to using all passive protection if you want your climbing to be more challenging. Or at least only use cams where necessary instead of using them even where passive gear would do the job. Or let's talk about sticky rubber, or Grigris, or any number of other things that make climbing easier and more brainless. I can't see anything bad about the range finder idea. Doesn't seem to affect anyone other than the climber using it, speeds the process of learning how to place cams, and increases safety. In fact, after all the explanations and diagrams I've seen about overcamming and undercamming, seems like an obvious idea that should have come along years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Metolius sucks. I wish I hadn't bought a bunch of their nuts before I knew any better. Life is full of regrets such as this. The horror! Just kiddin ya, I think my kid picked out a metolius nut for my birthday because it was the "prettiest" one at Cascade Crags. As such, it will addorn my rack until it meets its fate. But you are right, I don't really like any of thier stuff except the TCUs are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 'cept you can overcam the rangefinders and still be in the green. whatever, if they insult your intelligence, magic marker them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancegranite Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Marketing? How many new (and cheaper) cam companies are on the market this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Metolius sucks. I wish I hadn't bought a bunch of their nuts before I knew any better. Life is full of regrets such as this. The horror! Just kiddin ya, I think my kid picked out a metolius nut for my birthday because it was the "prettiest" one at Cascade Crags. As such, it will addorn my rack until it meets its fate. But you are right, I don't really like any of thier stuff except the TCUs are ok. Oh, their nuts I have are just fine, don't get me wrong. (that sounded bad) I just figure in the future I wont give my money to a company that cranks out the crap products I mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Great, now we need a new thread to see how everyone packs their nuts. (Deep voice) "Pack the rack?" (High voice) "Yes. Pack the nuts?" (High voice2) "Yes." (High voice) "Re-pack!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 (edited) The only bad thing that I can see coming out of it (which I think some implied in thier posts) is that it may give some the false sense that they can place a cam properly based solely on getting the green light from the cam... Edited May 12, 2004 by Rodchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 It's cowboy clip-up country out there in Central Orygun, Pard! What'd y'all expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Yeah but what if you can't SEE the markers? WHAT DO YOU DO? That is totally unsafe until they add a voice module to tell you when the cam is placed right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I would settle for a super model in Victorias secret apparell at the base of the climb explaining the pros and cons of color coordination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 *brhssshhh* *click* "Crack is too big. Jackass." *click* *shhhhzoooop* Other programmed comments will tell you when you are being a wuss, and provide real-time estimates of the percentage chance that will fall to a horrible death on the next move. *brssshhh* "One-hundred percent. Jackass." *brshhh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I would settle for a super model in Victorias secret apparell at the base of the climb explaining the pros and cons of color coordination. We really need a sexy gear thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 WTF DWL? I'd say these cams insult my intelligence, but I don't have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 It is a great idea but I think they screwed up? The far edge of the green would lose some holding power. I would be curious to see how much pull testing was done? I wish Ray Jardine was reading he could back me up on this. Anone in the know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 We really need a sexy gear thread! Voila! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Maybe when a few newbies die on gear routes all the tradheads will get some respect for the danger of trad climbing over bolt clipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szyjakowski Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 what respect do you need to climb cracks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackbolter Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 from the gekos, spiders and those little nymph looking things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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