minx Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 mine were stolen last year and i'm beginning to start thinking about replacing the. i hated what i had...they just seemed too big for my hands...i know sounds weird to you guys but they did. Any of the girls want to share what they've selected and why they like or dislike them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 jeez, anything you've ever owned that HASN'T been stolen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 minx said: Any of the girls want to share what they've selected and why they like or dislike them? knock it off. i cant take any more teasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 trask said: jeez, anything you've ever owned that HASN'T been stolen? trask it was all one big theft. Now that i have ins. money i'm ready to replace stuff so stfu and don't mess this thread up. i actually want some legit beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carolyn Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 minx said: mine were stolen last year and i'm beginning to start thinking about replacing the. i hated what i had...they just seemed too big for my hands...i know sounds weird to you guys but they did. Any of the girls want to share what they've selected and why they like or dislike them? What tools did you have? I had my eye on the cobras when they first came out. Unfortunately I couldnt grip it very well. The diameter is actually pretty much the same as the rage, but turned in a way that made it difficult to hold onto with gloves....so, I went with the rages. I like the quarks a lot and might look into them for next season. The grip is pretty darn good. The swing feels a lot different (to me) than the rages or cobras...a good difference, though. Doesnt cascade crags have an ice wall year round? Do they offer a selection of tools to try out? Maybe some folks around the site would lend ya some different varieties to try before purchasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I had my eye on the cobras when they first came out. Unfortunately I couldnt grip it very well. The diameter is actually pretty much the same as the rage, but turned in a way that made it difficult to hold onto with gloves....so, I went with the rages i think the new bd vipers are really good. I have small hands and using thinner gloves makes them much more user friendly. i use either gardening gloves with rubber palm ( you can buy them for $5 at any hardware store) or verglass with poly liners. i fiound no differance as far as how cold your hands get, since with a thick glove you have to grip so much harder. anyway, vipers rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 had the black prophet but i don't want to skew anybody's input. if you love a particular tool, i wanna know why. Thought about the quarks myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Are you more interested in a tool that is good for alpine climbing or waterfalls? Might help the discussion if you mentioned the type of climbing you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 Good point. I'm pretty well equipped for alpine but a versitile tool is never a bad thing. Mostly looking for something for water ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 heard good things about the DMM Flys; I think you can demo them at PMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I've been very very happy with my BD vipers. I use them only on waterfalls as the large amount of shaft curve and pinky supprorts (albeit small) makes them less than ideal for the alpine. I have pretty small hands and I liked the grip the best out of most everything I tried. -josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I have Cobras and like them. I stripped the rubber of my tool, for experimenting. It's not a big difference in diameter, but really makes a big difference in sensitivity and control. I tried wrapping with hockey tape, that lets you make a contoured grip that fits your hand perfectly. Great for tricky stuff, worse than useless for long slogs because after a bunch of plunging the tool starts building up a fat, nasty white husk that's impossible to hold onto. I went and did a bunch of stuff without the rubber, so far no damage to the tool or the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 dmm sucks!!! they swing like shit. vipers or quarks. and belive it or not you can use them on alpine climbs. quarks dry-tool really well, so do vipers. vipers have a know for andreoids in the shaft, so there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 minx said: Any of the girls want to share what they've selected and why they like or dislike them? Let's see, the girls have been trask, lummox, glassgowkiss, Greg_W, JoskK, and fleblebleb..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 (edited) I went and did a bunch of stuff without the rubber, so far no damage to the tool or the owner. You should be more careful in the future, a fellow could pick up a nasty bug that way. I too, have small hands so grip diameter was a concern for me. I have owned a pair of Pulsars and Blackbirds and liked the grip and swing a lot. Plus I found the picks to be significantly more durable than Black Diamonds. I got a pair of Shrikes because all of my friends use BDs I and I thought it would be nice to carry only a single replacement pick between us on alpine climbs. I also like how easy picks are to replace. The small grip fits my hand well. I had straight shafts but traded Colin for his bent shafts. Colin's residual mojo has increased my climbing ability immeasureably. Edited June 19, 2003 by danielpatricksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastBastard Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I've got a pair of BD Black Prophets and will ( money permitting) be upgrading to some Rages this fall ( I like that upper-shaft curve). I also like the DMM flys and the CM Axars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 EastCoastBastard said: I've got a pair of BD Black Prophets and will ( money permitting) be upgrading to some Rages this fall ( I like that upper-shaft curve). I also like the DMM flys and the CM Axars. Hmmmmm....maybe ecb will sell you his prophets (that is , if you really liked 'em). Then he/she can buy some new ones and you gots yourself back a set of tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 btw, glassgow...Im particularly fond of your avatar image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 carolyn said: btw, glassgow...Im particularly fond of your avatar image. how is this for an image? and my ass is really hairy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj221 Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 I'm presently using a pair of Trango Captain Hooks. After a winters worth of water ice climbing on the East Coast I can safely vouch for their ability to eat up steep ice. They have a great curve in the shaft for clearing those bothersome bumps and the grip is ultra comfortable. There is an added bonus of having them on sale for $110 per tool on mountain gear's clearance shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChick Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Minx, I have been iceclimbing for 4 years now and have been extremely happy with my CM Axars. I have small hands and they have been perfect for me. My ex-boy used the Black Prophets and sometimes we would switch off, but I stilled loved my Axars the best. They swing great and I very rarely have to swing more than once to get a solid placement - unless, of course, the ice is rock solid. I definately have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted June 19, 2003 Author Share Posted June 19, 2003 How'd the axars compare to the black prophets? I formerly had the BPs but they just weren't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceIceBaby Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 I have the Rages and the Quarks (I cant stand the Cobra and the Viper…anyway it is only a knockoff of the Quarks) the Quarks leash-less are the bomb those will be my next tools BTW I have a very small hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned_Flanders Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Anybody use the new grivel alps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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