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quote: Originally posted by turn_one : stumbled across M E C site recently web page noticed some really good pricing. my questions is to the canooks or any who have experience w/ these guys as to the quality of there stuf. pros/cons etc. thanks MEC rocks. REI should wish it could be 1/2 of what MEC is.

quote: Originally posted by bolt clipper: What a light, moderately warm, but well-climbing plastic boot? I am looking for something for general ice climbing and snow routes. I am leaning towards Scarpa Alpha shells with Intuition liners. I have huge feet, so weight is a moderately large factor. For what it's the shells on the Alpha are a bit "fragile". A partner of mine tripped while wearing crampons and put a hole through the shell.

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: You yobs miss the point of trask's thread. Back in our day, that young lout would've been properly flogged, and told to quit his puelin', eat his gruel, an' get back to work like a good lad. Silly me! I thought it was to bash them liberals....... [ 11-15-2002, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

http://w3.access.gpo.gov/usbudget/fy2003/fct.html Yes that's the link to the budget. Look at it. See where the money goes. Now look at our $100-200 Billion war with Iraq. Look at how much you'd have to cut to afford it without raising taxes.

quote: Originally posted by COL. Von Spanker:

1. 90 Honda Accord, 88 MB 300E 2. 0 3. In the past, a couple of times 4. I've found 4wd is rarely necessary with good snow tires, but always really nice when the passes have chain reqs. Putting on chains blows. A good, rugged 4wd wagon can go most anywhere that a standard stock SUV can go (eg Explorer, Blazer) – and won’t require much more thought than an SUV behind the wheel. With a 2wd you can get most places, you’ll just spend a lot of time& effort on the drive in. As the Honda & Toyota wagons of your are gone, you don’t have much choice for a 4wd wagon though. Subarus about it. The Jettas are nice, but not particularly rugged. Add to that the Mexican VW’s aren’t of the highest quality. Audi’s aren’t bad but they are more expensive to maintain & run – and have most the same issues as VWs (same engines & trannies after all). The BMW & MB AWD’s aren’t useful for offroad. Carl

quote: Originally posted by Bronco: quote:Originally posted by bolt clipper: Patagonia dimension seems real nice. The cut is awesome, and the fabric is heavy (7! oz), so it will be real durable. Sure, it's $225, but from what I've heard it works great. Oh, by the way, don't buy the Essenshell jacket, as the hood sucks, no way to get the thing to fit over a helmet. Otherwise, sew your own with a microfiber shell and fleece lining. You should be able to phone order one from their Dillon MT outlet store for about $180. Phone # is on the Patagucci website. They've been on special at the Outlets for as low as $99

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: If my memory is correct, Chuck Yeager said he climbed Denali wearing $39 leather workboots. If you've ever climbed the Exum ridge on the Grand - Glenn Exum climbed made the first ascent wearing football cleats! For cheap gear - your best is to get used stuff. Check out REI's attic (occaisonal great deals - like $3 Evernew cooksets), the classifieds on this site, and message boards. Beware eBay, things are rarely a good deal. If you don't like what you bought, you can turn around and sell it for close to what you paid for it usually - and the stuff will be alot more comfortable than plastic bags.

quote: Originally posted by iain: bad thing about the ecrin roc is those holes on the sides that whistle constantly. high winds on mountain ridges are annoying enough w/o that feature. I duct tape mine shut sometimes. You can also buy a set of plugs from Petzl to fill the holes, for a couple of bucks.

quote: Originally posted by trask: Ade, well, was he wrong? I don't think so. Shouldn't Vancouver and Toronto be like DC then? Fairweather - Your right - the debate has become too polarized, religous almost in tone. People have taken their positions, and no amount of arguing will change their mind which is sad but commonplace in the political landscape. I don't believe that most gun laws reduce crime (DC's certainly didn't affect it substantially). I don't believe that having guns adds to safety (note Richmond vs DC & Baltimore). If the law does nothing their's no point in having it.

quote: Originally posted by Jens: When I mention to others about how far behind the times we are in WA with new steep mixed ice routes, people agree. All we seem to want around here are the thunker ice routes. Sean Isaac told me about a dude who had developed an entire new area up by Mount Baker that had lots of routes up to M8. I had never heard the dude's name before. Anybody know the details? Where? This guy is keeping pretty mum. I'll stay off his projects. I have no personal knowledge, but Tim Matsui's site has pictures of a couple people climbing Gorilla Bar - M8 at the Toolshed mixed area near Baker. www.timmatsui.com

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htm DC banned pistols in 1976 - from the above statistics the murder rates were lower for the following 10 years. I'd attribute it to other factors than the law though.

The full stats are in the next post - as a question for you Greg, the following link has DC at #4 in murders per capita, and Baltimore at #6 http://www.morganquitno.com/cit00rank.pdf Mind you Richmond, VA(in Virginia concealed weapons are legal & the only gun control is enforcement of exiting laws) is ranked #8 in murders per capita. Shouldn't there be a bigger difference between Richmond and these 2 bastions of gun control? [ 11-01-2002, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Because taking away guns is more paramount to him, not punishing criminals (the presence of guns made them commit crimes, it wasn't their fault). Everyone is a victim to politicians (and idealogues) like Glendenning, even the criminals. Furthermore, enforcement of current laws might just work in reducing crime (it will), and then he would not be able to raise an emotional groundswell to back his gun control schemes. Having worked in Maryland - it's problems have much less to do with gun control (either side) and much more do to with poverty. Namely Baltimore, the only major urban area other than the DC metro in Maryland, is dirt poor - and is still hemhoraging jobs. Poverty, and little chance to escape it, leads to crime & violence - guns or no guns. For a good gun control argument - look at Washington DC- there murder rates down substantially since they banned pistols.

quote: Originally posted by STORER: Since there are all those commercials out there marketing SUVs to climbers, I was wondering what kind of car(s) do you guys have. Current car(Mercedes) has 275k on it - it's still cruising. The only major drivetrain work that's been done is to replace the injectors (knock on wood). It eats the highway miles - which is really is its only real qualification as a climbers car(though it's been to the Tetons, Winds & Sierras) [ 11-01-2002, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

quote: Originally posted by ILuvAliens: I have a vector, seems pretty accurate. The compass seemed to work fine as well, although when left uncalibrated it has drifted nearly 180 degrees off. My problem wasn't that the compass didn't workin the mechanical sense - it seemed to be reasonably accurate. Using it to actually navigate with was a pain in the ass though, and I wouldn't want to be stuck somewhere trying to navigate with it.

quote: Originally posted by snoboy: quote:Originally posted by freeclimb9: [QB As the creator of URL=http://www.iceclimb.com,]www.iceclimb.com,[/url] NotWorking?? [/QB] If you take the comma out it works fine. Used it several times in the pas - Great Site!

quote: Originally posted by trask: Call me naive, but this is the first call for money I've actually experienced on the web. Oh ya, the regulars always offer to pony up if the webmasters ask, but I've never heard a webmaster actually ask. So, say what you want about Scott, good guy, bad guy, goof ball, whatever, but Scott, you're the only one I've heard of actually panhandling for your site. I've seen a number that ask for donations, Canyoneeringusa comes to mind at the top of the list. Most of the sites don't even attempt to cover things like their labor at market rates - they just try to cover domain reg & server costs.

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: Got my ugly, bulky Vector on eBay for $120. Think I'll keep it, since all it takes is one trip to one of those over-12,000 peaks to wish you had one. I'd go with the Suunto Altimax over the Vector - the Compass on my Vector wasn't worth shit IMHO - and the Altimax is also cheaper.

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: Old Navy fleece jacket, $20 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167866 Old Navy fleece vest, $8 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167864 Is the Mountain Hardwear four times better? Uh at the North Face & Patagucci outlets you can get real fleece for less than twice that - and from my experience they'll last well more than twice as long.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: It better be a maple bar, or someone's getting an ass whuppin'. Preferably Krispy Kreme! You probably want sprinkles on that too....

quote: Originally posted by iain: Is there any better way to start the day? What kind of donut?

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: That's what happens when you've got a better donut. Dunkin's suck...they always seema day old. Even when they've just come out of the fryer!

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: Having grown up in the land of Krispy Kreme, I can tell you that the only KK to eat is plain glazed, round, and still warm. Everything else is imitation. MMMMmmmmm.. Where the glazing drips all over the cardboard. With a 12 pack of these & the truck of coffee you'd be amazed where you can drive.

quote: Originally posted by cartman: quote:Originally posted by iain: quote:Originally posted by cj001f: quote:Originally posted by Mr. Natural: posted by dfa: thats a maple RAISED, not a bar. a far inferrior pastery. ummmmmmmmmmm....doughnut........ The hole makes that much of a difference? the bar allows rapid consumption by just shoving with hand, kindof like using a wood chipper. This is a messy operation with a round pastry.how many sexual inuendos are you going for here you should just come out of that closet Probably like sprinkles....