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Stopping at stop signs may change in Oregon: HB 2768 - Passes the House 47-9 and moves to Senate House Bill 2768 allows bicyclists to recognize stop signs as yield signs, requiring them to maintain and yield the right-of-way but not requiring a zero mile per hour stop. HB 2768 is based on a similar law in Idaho. Idaho transportation planners find that non zero mile per hour stops for cyclists are safe, do not impact crash rates, make cycling easier, and do not endanger children or pedestrians.

What's with the taking of private squabbles public as a means of sales dispute resolution nowadays? Here, ttips - it's lame. Pain in the ass disputes are a part of mail order - and is why having real climbing stores, with real inventory, around, rocks. Keep your dirty laundry private.

Dave- Who is the "we"? You seem to have made alot of assumptions as to how the rest of the world wants to climb, and are willing to back them up with the climbing version of nuclear war, so where'd the high horse come from? Carl

Depends if they're Falcon produced, or a guide that was rebadged as a Falcon (like the How to Rock Climb, Climbing Anchors, more Climbing Anchors, etc series - which were Chockstone, until they were acquired). Colorado Ice Climber's Guide is a well produced Falcon Guide.

For me, me, me guidebooks the Old Climber's Guide to the High Sierra (Voge/Smatko) takes the cake . Smatko went and included numerous first ascents of unnamed, insignifigant peaks - most of which were, surprise, surprise, first climbed by him!

The Oakley Wisdom's aren't worth it - they didn't work any better than their cheaper goggles. And I didn't find their "look" me. Stick to cheap goggles (<$50) because they're going to get scratched and beat to shit.

After closing, right?

Late enough that I'm 100% certain I was not sober walking in the door to work this morning...... TG Triple Salubrious: Favorable to health; healthful; promoting health; as, salubrious air, water, or climate

Artic's rock! I've had mine for similar length. The independant battery back may seem like a pain - but I prefer it to the battery on the back of the head, because a)That weight gets annoying b)Increased battery life in winter.

Powells on Burnside.

Iberia's a nice airline, and over 50% of the jets at Barajas are Iberian. If your looking for cheap airfare there - go in February/March, when no one else is heading to Europe.

I vote for laziness - if you've ever tracked the way stories are reported in most papers today, they do fairly little original reporting/research - most of it's cut & paste assemblage of wire reports. If you've ever been quoted in a newspaper they're often not particularly accurate in quotation or fact reproduction(and that's not just the Nytimes) Carl

just out of curiosity... do y'all remember that when dan - did his first rainier climb, he said that he had sprinted to the summit for time, but then walked down. people came out of the woodwork to basically say "who cares what your time was base to summit, climbing is about the round trip, etc. etc." no disrespect to Lhakpa Cela, obviously this is an olympic-caliber athletic performance, but i wonder where are the same voices? why isn't anyone asking "what's the point of a one-way ascent time?" http://everestnews.com/everestnews3/masterspeed.htm "He completed this ascent from Base Camp to top and reached down to Base Camp in 18 hours 20 Minutes. "

go here Someone has devoted a business to slacklining!

You already know what a Sybian is apparently......

Ivan - This going to be a regular date for you?

Wrong! To them respond: Do not leave that half circle at any cost! Leave the mountain to us!

I was just pointing out that all ski lengths and shapes have been fads

I always answer yes to that question - and gloss over the absence of reception

Don't most skis last longer than any Salomon ski? Josh"I'ma a super hardman" K - Twin tips are a fad. Short skis are a fad. Long skis were a fad (80's). Short skis were a fad before that (70's). WTF is your point?

Twin tips are short. 'Nuff said.

I'll add my name to the list. Should I bring the BBQ?

No confirmation for that one - but there was another accident there recently. http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6443762%255E13780,00.html

They're probably not going to cause a big increase in the number of soloists, no. For the most part these articles reinforce peoples stereotypes regarding climbers as irresponsible - and reinforce the belief they shouldn't have to pay for rescue. Here's a nytimes articel along the same lines http://www.tribnet.com/sports/story/2619402p-2664712c.html

Climbing? Tillamook? Leave the cows out of this!