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I've lived in some of them. great climbing there maybe; volume , access & quality doesn't compare to the west (or even New England). You could fit all of the climbing in those states in the Sierra Nevada. This is just a sample:

Which ones? FL, MS, AL, AR, TX, OK, MO, OH, KS, ND, SD, NB, NC, SC, GA, VA, WV, KY, TN, KN, IA (that's 21 - 66%!) all would suck to be a climber in. Which leaves the Rocky Mountain West

I don't think Frist (or anyone else from the Senate) will be able to run a succesful canidacy; far to much to criticize in their record. Jeb runs in 2008

This was the first year people didn't throw their vote away on a 3rd Party. Your proving my earlier point.

It's called percent. Raw number doesn't mean much when your population grows. This was one of the closer elections ever. And to answer your question - I think many Americans are dim and ill informed. Statistics like this: Reinforce that position.

The Thorlo's I've had do dry quick, but fall apart quick. The only problems I have with socks are when my feet sweat alot - then the socks stink, strech when wet, slip on my feet, and cause blisters.

In the 50's southern Oregon and far Northern California formed the state of "Jefferson" Good riddance!

Since when do working class stiffs work professional jobs? Your average climber is more intelligent, better educated and better paid than the population at large. That qualifies as an elite. I can never tell if your stupid, a troll, or just a loon.

More Powder for the rest of us!

I usually using Smartwool hiking socks. My feet run warm. I don't use liners, ever, too many problems with them shifting and causing blisters.

Harpell, We've gone over this before. Again and again. You bring up conspiracy theories to debate this - then accuse "liberals" of wearing tinfoil hats. WW2 - the Japs bombed our asses. THEY STRUCK FIRST. We went to war with them. When someone attacks you it's well within your power to defend yourself.

When was the last time the military voted for a Dem? Gore served as well - the military loathed him. The military draws a majority of it's soldiers from areas that vote Red. Always has.

No, he didn't. If he did think that wouldn't our forces have been on alert I'm sure he thought one of the outcomes might have been war, but that result was not inevitable. In your world view what purpose does diplomacy hold if the end result is always war (as it was in WW2, Iraq, etc.)?

Bush has the arrogance to try and pass himself off as a hick. Kerry at least lives as what he is - a New England Brahmin. Don't forget that's what both he a W are - they were both members of Skull & Bones for crissake. If you prefer the policies of W, fine. Don't give me this moral crap. That's just the spinmeister image people talking.

HUH? We launched an embargo to change Japanese behaviour. They decided to attack us instead of modifying militaristic policies. War is not the end game in all disputes Harpell (you believing this would explain your opinions)

Watch "Rumsfeld's War", read the Washington Post. What's most frightening is not that he's isolated himself from opposing viewpoints, but actively persecuted those with opposing viewpoints within and outside his administration.

Your quote shows how sheltered you are Harpell.

Harpell- You've used this lie before. FDR didn't fabricate Pearl Harbour, and didn't fabricate Germany declaring war on us. Read an f'ing history book.

Throw in California and we'd be the 5th (4th?) largest economy in the world

Japan? You mean when we sat with our thumb up our ass over the rape of Nanking? Germany? Where they marched everyone to camps and we didn't care? If genocide's a valid reason why'd nobody care about Rwanda?

weird double

The Repubs will tell you he already has

I've already debated the Iraq war with you. I, and others, have shown debating with you is an exercise in futility. Now go be a productive member of society.

Perspective from a student. How refreshing

Arrogance, Elitism, and Stubborness are better?