AlpineK

Shit epic my fuckin ass. The Epic was when me and CJZ had to haul all our crap down to Rainy Knob after 2 days stuck in a tent. I know Robert and Ade left cams while rapping the couloir, and we left a bunch more a few days later while rapping in the dark. At the time it seemed prudent. Robert's welcome to the cams though. CJZ, "borrowed," most of the ones we burned on descent from a friend of ours who has a long history of, "forgetting (until we found the gear on his rack)," to tell us that he had some of our gear from a previous trip. The way I figure it it's still a burn on TFM

There is a direct correlation between cost of a process and energy use. It costs more to drive your Hummer to Smith than it does to drive your Prius.

hmm. * Recycled glass saves 50% energy vs. virgin glass (Center for Ecological Technology); recycling of one glass container saves enough energy to light a 100-watt bulb for 4 hours (EPA) * Recycled glass generates 20% less air pollution and 50% less water pollution (NASA) * 1 ton of glass made from 50% recycled materials saves 250 lbs. of mining waste (EPA) * Glass can be reused an infinite number of times; over 41 billion glass containers are made each year (EPA) starting to resemble Fairweather in your accuracy Yet we have this quote from Recycling Today: Source I believe the problem is that glass takes so much energy to process before you remelt it that the energy equasion is neutral. I'm sure if you have a source of washed and sorted glass then recycling does make sense, however human nature doesn't work that way. Besides I didn't come up with this idea from listening to a program on FOX news quite the opposite I heard this on a program funded by Fairweather's dreaded liberal ellite. Klenke The answer to your statement is to try and not be a wastefull consumer in the first place.

I don't have sources; cause I'm too lazy to search. Basically glass is heated up sand. It takes the same energy to heat sand as it does to truck used bottles back to the glass factory and melt them down to turn them into new bottles. Furthermore since glass is sand it isn't going to leach anything nasty into the aquafer under the dump. If they made bottles to be reused instead or melted down then ther would be an energy savings; but they don't.

It makes sense to recycle cans, but glass should go right in the garbage. There is no conservation of anything in recycling glass.

Yeah, but it gets damn annoying fast, when the solicitous help asks you over and over again "are you an REI member" and "you can use your 20% discount today". Um, yes, that's why I am here today, leave me alone... The last time I went to REI I was there to buy freeze dried food for a trip I was leaving on in 2 days. I originally went to Outdoor and More, but they were closed and I needed the food that evening. Anyway I got to the cash register and: Clerk: That'll be $(x); do you have an REI # Me: Here's the money; no I don't have a membership. Clerk: You know you save every time you shop here as a member. Me: Yes I know that. Clerk: Well do you want an REI membership. Me: No thank you. Clerk: Do you do a lot of stuff in the outdoors. Me: Yes Clerk: Well you really should become a member; think how much you'll save. Me: I hate REI. I think the store sucks. The only reason I'm here is I need freeze dried food this evening and you were the only place open. I normally never come here. Clerk: Well I guess I deserved that. In conclusion I would say that I treat REI like 7-11. I know they're open late a lot, so I'll take advantage of that if I'm procrastinating. Otherwise screw em. They stopped being a climbing store years ago. It's your own faulst if you still go there regularly to buy climbing gear.

Don't worry I've got a job.

So basically what your saying is you're a wimp cause your afraid of not smelling like your favorite colongn...Calvin. Oregon: there is no decent alpine climbing, tons of hippys, and you can't pump your own gas. Face it your state sucks I know you're right now, but don't worry go get yourself a double orange moca frapichino with a twist of lemon; you'll feel much better.

THE FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB IS NEVER TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB

I believe the guide says the start of Angel Crack is 5.10... either that or it says bouldering start.

You should have been posting faster while all those bible scholars were debunking the whole 666 thing.

Chaps is one of those guys who you will eventually here this said about him:

the only thing i like out of a can is barqs root beer. it's the only kind of beer i like. well, that and snoqualmie avalanche and belgian appel witbiers. YUM! ps - i do miss the big R where the big T now is ... I don't know if you like Pale Ales, but I've been buying this one called Dale's Pale Ale. It comes in a can, and it tastes pretty darn good; way better than macrobrew in a can.

I'll buy that.

Godzilla and Damnation are both 5.9 yet I would consider Damnation to be more sustained. Godzilla gets a 5.9+ from a lot of you, so where does that leave Damnation? I wouldn't call it 5.10.

Outer space rating thread Based on this you must be climbing at least mid 11s at 38. Don't sell yourself short.

TLG if you want to be a true northwesterner you'll drink Rainier beer and like it even though the made in Cali label makes you cry.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

I've been doing alpine sit starts for years.

Have you ever considered that we aren't your enemy. Maybe it's someone closer to home who keeps updating us with all the funny things that happen on your board. Someone who has a better understanding of where we're going to take certain topics.

Sorry, I was going to come, but I've got other things going on. Snugtop and the Canturbury both rule though.

Ok Chaps I'm sorry I just can't help myself sometimes. You've gotta understand I just got banned from ascensionist.com which is a whole different level of spray.

beat you

From the Minnesota site on the subject of the party. dvs wrote: These get my votes for funniest posts in the forum to date. Does this mean that Divesh & Ian will be ordering in German? Or perhaps climbing in lederhosen? They ARE capri-esque... Dude that's some funny stuff I wish I could come visit. Maybe I'll wait till the ice fest though.

MJ admitted to sleeping in the same bed with a 12 year old boy...I'm sorry the kids parents might be trying to cash in, but MJ did do something wrong.