jon

I was actually talking about the disclaimer issue with someone the other night. Honestly I don't know much about what our risks are. If there are any lawyer types that would be willing to help us put together a statement that would be neat. Last time I read legalese when I was trying to patent something my brain just about melted. I think there is a recognizable difference between posting an opinion and purposefully posting bad advice. In the latter case either they should be called out or it should be brought to the moderators attention. Things like giving a route condition is really very subjective, versus telling some poor newbie all they should take to go do DA TOOF is a set of quickdraws and a gri gri which is just plain fucked up. What may obviously seem like a joke to you or others may not be interpreted that way by someone who doesn't know any better. So you are putting someone at risk so you can get a laugh? Should that tolerated by us but more importantly the sites core users? I would hope not. [ 09-24-2002, 03:34 PM: Message edited by: jon ]

PLEASE DON'T SUE US WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY ANYWAYS!

Ok calm down fellas. What other areas are there that are good for teaching groups besides Mountie Dome, there has to be others? Why do you guys insist on fighting for the same spot? I think it would be nice if there were no large groups on the Mountie dome on the weekend at all so us non group people can climb on it, give us a chance to use the place to teach newbies. I'm not trying to turn this into a mountie bashfest but I would like to see the Mountaineers and other organized groups start using other areas for a change, or do those trips on weekdays. It's not fair for any group to assume they have the whole area for the day because they are a large group and are teaching beginners and this is the best place to do it because it is close to the road etc. etc. etc.

Venga Roberto! Venga Venga Venga!

I have no recollection of that Senator.

quote: Originally posted by Pencil Pusher: Mt Olympus, car to car in 23 hours, 43 minutes. Why? SICK! Good work guys.

Peter Whittaker is hosting the Rainier Mountainfest in Ashford, WA, including book and poster signing by notable local climbers, salmon feast, beer, and music. More info can be found at Rainiermountainfest.com.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Being cuddly for spooning at unplanned bivis is a bonus. If her name is Britney Spears.

"Rainbow Six" by Tom Clancy. Action packed from the very first page. One of his best books I think present a truely scary reality in the post 9/11 world. "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Green. If you like science and got at least a B in physics class this is a fascinating book introducing you to the history of Newtonian physics and the work of Einstein to develop a unified theory. Talks about String theory and multiple dimensions and does it in a way that an average person can understand. Great nerd stuff.

I'll be there on Sunday.

Hey everybody does things they regret, don't know if Kurt actually regrets the chipping but that was what people were doing at the time. Bottom line this weekend Kurt will be helping a crag and people that he could probably otherwise give a shit about.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Ah Jon I am on to you and Tim - This is really an post-graduate study to see how silly you can get people to act. I bet we have exceeded your wildest expectations and I know you will both graduate with honors and go on to be marketing masters!! Wait until the next part of the study starts!

Ridges of high pressure........ Anyways don't listen to this crap the skiing and ice climbing will be freakin plab this winter. You must project a positive mental attitude to magical freshie man in the sky.

For me a good partner is someone I can trust with my life without hesitation. They don't have to be a great climber because I stink, but I need to know when I'm 100 feet above them and can't see what their doing that they are making smart and safe decisions. If shit hits the fan in a serious way I need to know that they have the ability to rise to the occasion and not flip out. I suppose being able to handle tough situations comes with experience but there are people who can better handle incredibly stressful situations than others regardless of their experience level. I'd rather be stuck in a tough spot with an inexperienced climber but someone who can rationally handle the situation then someone who is experienced and just mentally self distructs, because in the latter case I'd be forced to make decisions for the both of us, and if it's me who is hurt then they are putting both of us at risk if they can't think rationally. Being with a partner who can handle the gravest of situations can mean life or death for someone, regardless of whether you are 2 days from the trailhead on an alpine route or at a roadside crag. As I learned this winter things can get really bad in a hurry even on a short easy 5.7 sport climb.

Trask thats absolutely adorable!!!

Hey Leavenworth is pretty cool too. It's almost in Bavaria. So AlpineKronic at Pub Club did anyone volunteer to take charge in organizing this or are we going to argue about this until the day before with strong arm tactics.

Will give ski lesson for beer and horsecock.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: I went climbing with someone once and all they would talk about was how full of idiots this site was! Good thing PP was going incognito that day! Petey, I once went climbing with one of the idiots who started this site if you can believe that!

quote: Originally posted by ivan: never climb w/ orangutangs (or try to spell them either)...all the hair, plus they climb better than me, don't protect long traverses and throw excrement at you the whole time you're seconding LMAO!!! Plus having to carry all those bananas.

Free Gear Demo: Manufacturers of the latest Ice Tools, Crampons, and Boots for this winter's Ice Climbing season will be here to let you try it out before the ice gets thick. Black Diamond, Grivel, Charlet Moser, La Sportiva, Salomon Sean Isaac, author of Mixed Climbs in the Canadian Rockies will be here to set routes for a competition. Sean will also hold a clinic on Sunday October 13 beginning at 11:00 am to 3:00 pm. Cost for the Gear Demo and Comp is Free Prizes for the winners! Cost for the Sunday Clinic is $50 Registration in advance required The Clinic is limited to 8 participants Saturday October 12 12:00 - 4:00 Gear Demo 4:00- 4:30 Demo by Sean Isaac 5:00-6:30 Competition 7:00 Awards, Refreshments 7:30 Sean Isaac Slide show Sunday October 13 11:00 - 3:00 Ice Climbing Clinic by Sean Isaac. Cost $50 2820 Rucker Ave. Everett, WA 98201 Phone: 425.258.3431 Fax: 425.258.4159 Email: info@cascadecrags.com [ 09-18-2002, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: jon ]

quote: Originally posted by Dave Schuldt: What's this wednesday bullshit, have we changed the day? Dave we changed the day to Wednesday and now it is in Tacoma every week.

I suppose that is the before and after sport climbing pictures huh.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: PowerGel has caffeine in it (some flavors, anyway), and is thus better than GU. Stick your GU up your poo, foo'. GU has caffeine too stupidhead.

For those of you who never participated in this poll take the few second to. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002035

HEY WILL GUYS STOP POSTING PICTURES OF THAT IDIOT, I DON'T CARE IF HE DIRECTED TITATANIC OR WHATEVER.