Doug

Excellent link!

So wouldn't it bother you in the least bit that this occurred because the President of the United States lied to put you and your battle buddies in that position in the first place?

First of all, my thanks to you for serving our country. The author of the article seems to be implying that military deaths occur regardless of the level of conflict and that those of us who are opposed to the war in Iraq should just quit whining and support our troops? Well as has been stated here, the author is playing loose with facts and figures. Yes, there have been military deaths in times of peace such as during the Clinton administration. I'm sure there were also an equivalent number of deaths during the Carter, Reagan and Bush I administrations as well. But what he doesn't seem to acknowledge is that the majority of us anti-war pussies cite the 3,000+ war causalties as unneccesary because the piece of crap ignoramous and his henchmen present and since run off lied to the very people that they are sworn to protect to get us into this conflict. So if we're not fighting the Iraqi insurgents and we have ~1,000 or so of the expected mortality attrition in the service - that's just an average statistic. It could happen to any of us at any time. It's what got those 3,000 over there to get killed that pisses me off. I salute their commitment and patiotic sacrifice. But we really have no business there in the first place. Al Queda followed us in, and there were no WMD's. Period.

Dr. Steven Ratcliffe. He has an office on Gilman Blvd. and on 116th in Bellevue. He was originally recommended to me by a guy who had his ACL rebuilt by him. He has scoped me twice and did a great job. My brother in law is an Orthotics & Prosthetics guy and knows most of the Orthopedics guys in the region; he rates Ratcliffe as the best. He also has a great bedside manner. If you see him, ask him about his hobby - Aerobatic flying!

Maybe the rest of these jokers and not just climbers should be required to wear them as well: Oregon SAR in 2005: activity % of missions 1. motor vehicles 20.5 includes ATV's and snowmobiles 2. hiking 13.8 3. wandering 10.1 hiking w/o fixed destination 4. hunting 9.4 5. boating 6.4 6. suicide 5.5 7. swimming 4.2 8. fixed-wing aircraft 3.7 9. climbing 3.4 10.mushroom picking 3.0

Before I leave for work in the morning, I give my sleeping daughter a kiss on the cheek and whipser "I love you, be a good girl today". That inspires me. When she gives me a half awake hug and tell me she loves me and kisses my cheek, that inspires me more. Hearing (or reading) a climbing tale that is devoid of the grade they climbed and that speaks to the intrinsic rewards they got for climbing (i.e., egoless climbers). That inspires me. Coming back from a climb with a huge smile on my face, that inspires me too.

Beautiful! You guys really pulled off a good one!

Originally Posted By: mattp A year ago, Bush started out his SOU speech with five minutes on 911 and Afghanistan feeding into Iraq in such a way that it sounded as if he was saying that Saddam attacked us. He wouldn’t dare try that now. Certainly the administration is finding their backs against the wall. Where/what is "the wall"? Other than legal conviction (which, I believe, is a pipedream), "the wall" is only the room where a new strategy is formed for the sale of an agenda and the purchase of power. Cynical? Yes. Can noble magnanimity gain traction in an environment where nothing moves without the exchange of favors? I think the wall is the stranglehold that the Republican party has had over thecountry in the last past few years. If they fuck up the war in iraq any further, they will not come back to signficance for years to come, or until Obama gets a blow job in the oval office. In its current form, if the Republican party were to implode it wouldn't bother me one bit.

Hey! A guy cuts down a couple of trees, does that make him a logger? Also, if your male climbing partner gives you a blow job, does that make both of you gay?

A few years back I was getting a lot of pain in the ball of my right foot. Went to my GP, he sent me to a podiatrist and next thing I knew I was getting my feet cast and I got some orthotics. I mainly used them in my climbing boots for about 6 - 7 years. Recently because they don't fit well in my current mountaineering boots, I quit using them, going back to the standard insoles. No problems as of yet. About 8 years ago a chiropractor I was seeing started selling orthotics out of his office. I bit and bought 2 pair; 1 for everyday wear, the other for my running shoes. I used the ones for my running shoes and almost immediately began getting blisters in a couple of areas on the bottoms of my feet. Eventually I quit using them altogether and now use superfeet inserts in my running shoes and have had no problems. I guess the message here is, the expensive podiatrist prescibed orthotics seemed to work o.k., but the cheaper DC made ones didn't impress me. I have an over-pronantion and high arches and the superfeet seem to do the job.

Caray! Harry fucking CARAY! Gross-man, Rex fucking Gross-man!!

And for Gods sake, please dress in Orange and carry an MLU. Make sure you get your private rescue insurance as well. One more gouge to the taxpayers in Oregon, they may have to institute a sales tax on climbing equipment to pay for the volunteers!

Pretty cool. He sure seems to like to run it out!

You can pick your friends You can pick your nose But, you can't wipe your friends under the couch after you pick'em. This was the auto sig on my nephew's e-mail!

Hell, I would think that behavior ilke this is part of the Miss Nevada contest! On a side note, there was a line in the Seattle Times the other day that said that Miss Nevada and Miss USA were spotted making out n a bar in New York. Not since the 1980 Olympics had a crowd chanted U-S-A, U-S-A so ferverently!

Was the SG made prior to 1960? If'n you all are nice, I'll post a pic of my 67 SG Custom.

Annapurna K2 - The Savage Mountain Eiger Dreams Recently I read a novel by Jeff Long titled "The Wall". Interesting bit of fiction, worth a read in my opinion.

I bought a used Stairmaster PT4000 about 5 years ago and if I can't go out running, or miss my cardio on gym nights it really is a great workout - so long as I don't lean too heavily on the rails.

Ya know, I'm really going to miss you. No wait a minute, that was someone else. Who the hell are/were you anyway?

Another opinion on this topic

That really sucks. The perpetrator should be taken into an old barn, nailed to a chair by his scrotum (though it is difficult to believe he posseses testicles, and if he does they are probably stolen). Then the barn should be set on fire and he gets a dull kitchen knife handed to him. And then shot when he comes running out.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, some of us believe we are entitled to our own truth. For me the truth is there is nothing wrong with sport climbing and it does have its place. My opinion of rap bolting is that it is kind of a wholesale attack on what could be a beauitiful and pristine area for the sake of its conquest on the bolters terms. And I personally don't like it. But I do believe it has its place in places like Peshastin, deception crags, etc. Sport climbing, in my opinion, should never be thought of in the same context as alpinism. They are really two different things. As far as the advances in equipment and techniques in alpinism (crampons, cams, etc.) I think they are o.k.; they make what you are doing easier to accomplish, but leave minimal impact. There will always be the olditmers and thise of us who like to bitch that say it isn't as hard as it uesd to be, and that is the truth! When I see what others had to put up with 20, 30, 40 years ago, I'm even more impressed by what they did. Now as far as boycotting the movie, who the fuck cares! If nothing else, give some alpinism equal time on the same bill!

I purchased my first Mac in 1987, an SE. 9" &W monitor, OS 6. I'm on my 6th Mac, a G5 21" monitor iMac. it is a beautiful machine. In the last 20 years I have been a dual user, PC's at work, Mac at home. We have a home built PC that my wife uses, but give me a Mac any day of the week. I have yet to find the need for an application that wasn't supported by Mac. Currently, I use safari for web browsing and haven't had any issues. Go for it, take the plunge, you'll be glad you did.

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for asking why some tool got sent to banned camp. mkay?