did i ever say you were the potential troll, shapp? i merely was interested because when you get going on a thread you tend to go on with a bit of conviction, no? i enjoy hearing strong beliefs and opinions and you certainly have them.
flagstone is the only one of the two i've been to - wasn't impressed... my friend david took me there and he knew a bit about the place. to me it felt like the gorge ozone, dropzone, twilight zone or any other of the shitty crags in or around portland. I'd rather drive clear back over to Anthony lake to climb over there - at least that's granite. btw, shapp, you still wanna buy me a beer to call you an a-hole proper