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huh, sounds like an impingement. It is not uncommon for people who constantly wear heavy packs to suffer from something called Thoracic Outlet Syndrome where the nerves of the brachial plexus, which originate from the cervical spine, are compressed. However, the most commonly effected nerves are the ulnar, radial, or median nerves. If this was the case you would feel it in your neck and arm, not so much the scapular area. However, it is possible for a similar type of entrapment to occur on the suprascapular nerve, which innervates the muscles of the scapula. Here is a link to a definition of subscapular nerve entrapment with some useful information, I hope it helps. Link

The approach isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Don't get me wrong, you can really screw yourself and end up schwacking through the suck. Still, its magnitudes better than rat bastard creek.

Anyone watch Restrepo? Hearts and minds: [video:youtube]

Good point. CDC identified 800 cases of illnesses due to raw milk products since 1998, versus 76 millions food-borne illnesses per year. Do you have a source for that? I'm not second guessing the source I just have been trying to find CDC information pertaining to raw milk directly, with limited success.

Huh. I hadn't seen the whole "racket" thing. A law is a law, I guess. Not to sound like a raging Libertarian, but isn't this the type of shit that happens when something gets over regulated? People find creative ways to circumvent the laws, and than the government spends more time closing the loopholes all the while creating more work and points of enforcement that inevitably result in more circumventing and even more laws being implemented that results in more people hired to enforce the laws until no one knows what the hell they were really fighting against in the first place? Obviously this is a more complex issue than it appears at first glance (like most things), but seriously, it still seems incredibly stupid.

I'm not against regulating raw milk. It obviously needs to be regulated, but it doesn't sound like the FDA had any real reason to hassle the farmer. It would be nice to have more information from their side. Also, I have been trying to find more data about infection rates caused by raw milk in the US. It seems that the most common bacterial infections resulting from contaminated raw milk are E.coli 0157 , campylobacter, and salmonella with a majority of the infections resulting from E.coli 0157. The CDC's report from 2009 said that there where 6033 cases of campylobacter recorded, or roughly 13.02 infections per 100,000 people. In the same year there were 459 cases of STEC 0157 (shiga toxin producing E. Coli 0157) and 264 non-STEC 0157 infection which equates to roughly 1 infection per 100,000 people caused by STEC 0157 and a very small number from non-STEC 0157 (CDC doesn't give a number). The report also showed that the most affected demographic were the very young (<4 years old) and the middle aged-older crowd (>50 years old). I didn't have any luck finding data on what percent of infections were caused by raw milk, but the CDC says a majority of cases come from shitty raw beef. Source So your chances of getting a bacterial infection related to many different types of contaminated/raw food is small, and the chances that it was raw milk are even smaller. How much money do you think has been spent on this one case alone? 3 government agencies involved? That doesn't sound cheap. How hard is it to simply track the milk? Maybe try nicely asking the farmer instead of putting him on the defensive(don't the Amish have something against lying?). This whole thing seems needlessly bureaucratic, but maybe that's what things have come down to.

Raiding the Amish for animal cruelty is something I can understand. However involving multiple government agencies for a year while a criminal case is being built against raw milk sales across state lines reminds me of the Monty Python mosquito sketch where the hunter uses rockets, grenades, machine guns, and a flame thrower to kill the mosquito. Here is another article with a bit more detail from the Amish man himself. This is just a simple case of over regulation, overkill, over-whatever. That or someone was really bored at the FDA.

Seriously, WTF?

If more groups had women in Bikini tops I would be much more likely to attend.

Wow, that first shot is absolutely amazing! Good stuff!

Went out to climb and ski the East ridge of Eldorado with a friend (Brian) this last Saturday (the 30th). Ended up wasting an hour getting the car unstuck in no more than 1.5 feet of snow. Oh well. The road is almost clear to Eldorado gate, no more than a mile of walking and its melting out fast (assuming no more snow falls). Anyway, made it up to the ridge above the Eldorado glacier in a white out and surprisingly hot conditions (it was a damned sauna up there). Time was fading so we decided to enjoy the ski down while we still had visibility. The boulder field at the top of the trees is completely covered, but its not going to last long. Anyway, here are some pics (All taken by Brian). Vertigo! seriously, I would almost fall over anytime the angle of the slope changed. It cleared just enough for Brian and I to see the notch in the ridge. Top of the ridge overlooking the Eldorado glacier Looking up to the Inspiration, another day.

Climb Yocum ridge on Hood, than should at least desensitize you.

Wicked ski! How did the North Face look?

This is the problem with the best TR contest, I keep finding TR's that are absolutely awesome, this for example: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=943353

Great adventure: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=860096

[img:center]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_-ROEgASjzLM/TZF0GScP3rI/AAAAAAAADWA/D6JEH4bdcLI/s512/IMG_1469.JPG[/img] Wow, this picture trips me out, its like looking at an ice roof. What a freekin gem of a climb, congrats!

Trip: Banff - A sampling - Green gully, Coire Dubh Integral, Coughlins Date: 3/28/2011 Trip Report: First time ever to the Canadian Rockies, man what an awesome area. I am already planning my return trip. Welcome! Day 1: The Green Gully Fun climb, was slightly sun affected. We only belayed the third pitch which I am told is a WI4. It didn't feel harder than 3, maybe 3+ to me, however I am by no means an authority on ice grades. Regardless, it was a good climb. Rambly approach ice: Crux pitch: Day 2: Coire Dubh Integral This was a really fun climb, however we did not complete the route. We soloed all of the ice bits and found ourselves guessing as to where the mixed climbing began. We picked a narrow chimney that pulled to climbers left and then back to climbers right in a S shape. Brian ended up leading. It ended up being one thrutchy bastard of a pitch, mostly because the chimney was not wide enough to accommodate a pack. after a few minutes of scraping, sparks, and screaming barfies Brian ended up leaving his pack clipped into a cam so he could proceed with more ease. I had the pleasure of climbing the crack with Brian's pack dangling between my legs by a runner as well as my own pack on my back. I sounded like a women giving birth the whole way up. Thank god there was no one watching from below as they would have thought someone was being raped by a Canadian yeti. More shenanigans ensued, but we finally made it to a nice ledge. At this point, we were so fogged in we had no idea where we were. After a few vain attempts to find the route, we decided it was best to retreat with out tails between our legs. Beer wouldn't judge us back at the Irish pub in Banff. Other climbers soloing the ice: Up the Gully: Mixed Pitch (I dubbed it, "no crying in Bubbas bunk"): Day 3: Coughlins Originally we had planned on climbing Professor falls on our last day. However, the previous days activities had exacerbated a nagging shoulder injury so we decided that something with less of a crowd and not as long would be better. On the way in we noticed that pretty nuts still looked good, on the way back it had a large crack forming across the main curtain, so that was another option down. Finally we settled on Coughlins, which was north facing and looked good from the road. It was a fun climb. Finally, fat blue ice: All in all it was a short trip with a little less climbing achieved than I had originally hoped. however, it was by no means a waste of time. I feel like it was a quick introduction to a fantastic area. There is something inherently exciting about visiting/climbing in unfamiliar places. Sadly, its the end of the ice season and now all I can think about is climbing more ice. I guess I will have to wait until next year to get back, and believe me, I will be going back. Until next time! Gear Notes: Standard Ice and rock rack Approach Notes: Bring music for the drive.

Whoops, me too.

Awesome. Where exactly is this area?

Here are a few free article I found on pubmed (click on the free article in the right hand corner). Maybe they will help, maybe not. Good luck. Acute calcific periarthritis outside the shoulder: a frequently misdiagnosed condition http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7804591'>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7804591 Acute calcific periarthritis of proximal interphalangeal joint in a professional golfer 's hand http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7804591 Effectiveness of radial shock-wave therapy for calcific tendinitis of the shoulder: single-blind, randomized clinical study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16649891

It seems like any calcium deposites would have shown up on your X-ray. However, I'm not familiar with the sensativity of an x-ray. It's always possible that something was missed. Maybe you damaged a ligament or tendon, in which case it would not show up on an X-ray. If what your doing now isn't working, think about getting an MRI. Injuries suck.

Ok, I see now. Have you had any diagnostic imaging done like and MRI, X-ray, or ultrasound?

I bought 2 16cm and 1 13cm from this person as well using the exact same post. Hmm, seems suspicious, however I did recieve my ice screws in fine conditions so I can't complain.

wait, your talking about your 4th and 5th metacarpophalangeal joints? How is that shoulder related?

Thanks, I will look into Seattle. I have seen 2 PT's and am currently seeing a LMP and DC. The PT helped a little, but to be honest the message has been the most beneficial. Not sure how much the chiro is helping but my back sure feels good. My MRI shows subacromial and subdeltiod fluid with some increase in the signal. So bursitis is most likely the culprit. The glenoid labrum looks good, but they didn't use contrast so its still possible that there could be a problem there. Anyway, It seems like a good idea to get some more imaging. If all else fails, or if I can't get back to fairly functional statues, then its time to go under the knife.