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besides, if you did not have 8900 or so posts, maybe you would not have to work overtime, miss the ski trip or cancel spring break. Just a thought....

hey little rudEbeyotch, my boss called and told me to relay this message to you: get over yourself, log off CC.Com, and give us the F'N numbers for the bridge design so we can start working on the Project. BWHAHAHAHAHA.

Whoooaa buddy, just because your best carpenter is now in California without you, don't get your panties all knotted up. However, I would like to point out the fact that someone had to "Honor" a former climber who died at FC using a placard on the rock. Even more BullShiet than writing someone's name in chalk or paint if you ask me. I had to qoute this for prosperity. That's because you're clueless Shit, by some accounts, he wrote either "Beggars Banquet" or "Let it Bleed". The Glimmer Twins screwed him "They"? It was Anita Pallenberg. Oh wait, you don't know who Anita Pallenberg is. She was shacked up with Keith Richards for years, turned him into the "Dark Prince". You do know who Keith Richards is, right? click here Oh yea, he was 26 dumbshit

perhaps, ivan, the poster lazyalpinist is a little girl. glad to hear people are already getting after it on the 5.6 RandD... one of my favorite boulderclimbs in the icicle which I can't wait to climb again this year.

i will find it quite humorous if indeed the owner of the property below the crags gave permission. As I stated earlier, the whine of bikes has been a fixture at the coulee in the past and perhaps it will be again. When the shotguns of recreators blast some pigeons as well, maybe the fact that the eastside of the Cascade Mountains is truly too redneck for all you wet-siders.

Now this is amazing. I would like to see mr Hannold come to Index and put his skills to the test on the vertical granite of Washington.

Renting from Fred is easy. All bills and utilities related to the house are handled by the property manager. As mr alpinfox states, Fred is usually not home. And when he is, he is usually working on his supersecret project or such. Sweetest deal in Seattle for a climber/skier. Recommend it to anyone that doesn't mind living with a grandpa-aged fellow. Edit: yes, I lived there for approx 3 years.

thanks to the rat who emailed me. however, I would still like to hear about anyone's experience in the Santa Cantalina Mountains, Leviathan Dome. go get it!

the road is not accessible for motor vehicles unless you are driving a snow mobile or atv.

I would say, not likely. The Deproach will be wet and possibly full of snow patches. Furthermore, the drip in the chimney is probably seapping pretty regularly these days. Spring is late in the Leavenworth area. Recent snow events have further delayed many southfacing crags from becomming in good climbing shape. The crags at the entrance to both Tumwater and the Icicle are good to go FOR SURE.

Totally agree with mr AlpinFox on this one. ***From what I know of Fred, he does NOT prefer to be solicitated for much other than women and a belay.*** Also, I remember someone once dropped by the house to leave a grip of literature, maps and pictures to be signed by Fred. Via a conversation with someone at the Mountaineers he got our address. Fred was irrate about the entire ordeal and asked me to call the guy back. The genteleman ended up driving back late that same night to fetch all his books and other crap as it was sitting on the front porch. If he did not acquire his belongings by the next morning, I was instructed to recycle all the crap. I would say from my first-hand experience with Fred, show the old man some respect and let him have his privacy.

If you did, I would think you should be prepared to receive all the bolts via parcel post air dropped onto your head. Anyrate, here is a picture of the wall taken on April Fool's Day in my opinion, the rock appears wet and not the best for climbing. goto Southwest.com and buy ticket to somewhere South. I did. So Cali, here I come!

I wish the owner hadn't regraded the property so much... seriously. I think he changed the elevation an entire contour line on the 7.5minute quad in some places...sheeesh. I am still somewhat bitter about the bouldering access in the area. However, not as bitter at the company (with forest circus guidence) that bulldozed the landing pad (now parking lot) on the backside of Barney's Rubble. I still kick myself for not taking pictures of the once infamous cave rock boulder. I am sure it will clean up nicely again one day but for sure it will never be the same after the slashpile that was smashed and then subsequently torched, exploded the giant flakes/holds into oblivion. Such a sad sad day it was when I saw the travesty. Department of Agriculture my ass Access to certain crags via private roadside areas in the icicle never entirely seems to be jeopardy as long as we all: 1) smile 2) be pleasant in asking permission if one sees a suspected landowner 3) never "chill out" on the property's structures/land (ie decks, lawn, etc) 4) keep low impact mentality 6) pack out your trash 6) say THANK YOU and keep smiling... 7) most important: don't park in the driveway of the property.

Is Frenchmans coulee really so Wilderness that the whine of the Interstate can not drown out the couple of kidZ having fun burning Fossil Fuels below the cliffs. OMG, motorbikes at Vantage. Please, Gearheads have been using the area on and off for years. Longer than most of you have even climbed out there... Can't we just Share the sandbox. Btw, don't you think Government agencies have better things to do then go drive out there and enforce a law (burning more fossil fuels)? Just some thoughts.

Looking beautiful in the canyon yesterday afternoon....

what type of rock do you think that is craig? I am inspired! Congrats on the P. You should explore the Trib canyons of Wenatchee Valley.

i guess I will have to rely on the information I got from the desert wren. although any other beta, experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Nice. Looks like a great time. I still want to check out that area... In recent years, Frenchman's coulee seems to be getting more and more overrun with crowds. A major dissappointment but at least you know what to avoid on the weekends. Hopefully the other Eastern WA areas do not become guide book (instructional book) tractor beams. For those who care: HINT, HINT.

There are tens of restaurants but most have fairly full staff. The best thing would be to go to Leavenworth and ask around. Realize this: there are no free lunches in Leavenworth as the town and immediate areas have changed. If you want free long term camping you should move to mexico, although the water isn't as clean.

I still want to watch Beth climb citypark.

HAh, I really don't even need to bait the hook. I really do not care about secret ice or rock for that matter. It is all over the place. A bit of exploration will even lead you to the dragons drool. I am however concerned about all the sledneckers burning fossil fuels, which speeds up the depletion of our Oil/gas Reserves and consequently Raises our F'ing gas prices....(Supply and DEMAND- ECON 101)... okay back to oversight on drilling monitor wells in seattle.

why do you give away the secrets?

yeah I have already saved most of the book to my laptop while in AZ. The approach is a bit confusing when out on the trail. The closure according to a Tucson gym is not as harsh regarding big horn sheep. Area specific, I guess. Nothing at the Park mentioned closures either. Hell we did not even see any sheep. My partner saw a deer. Saw swallows and heard a falcon and heard some coyotes in the morning... Lots of cactus and many hours of swearing along in the wash which was in spring conditions. As stated in one of the instruction manuals, the climbing can be done in a day if familiar with the approach. We tried despite no route/approach knowledge except the books and a crappy map from the park, and as said failed due to light. Really it was the lack of desire to finish the climb in the dark via headlamp and then hike back to packs via rapel and scrambling and then do the descent to car which took I think 3.5 hrs anyways after rapelling from the traverse pitch. I was not asking for specific route beta. IS there another Leviathan Dome somewhere? ANYONE climb this dome? Anyone with experience in SANTA CANTALINA MTS? Thanks! Cheers...

anyone here climb this dome? is there another Leviathan dome somewhere other than in AZ? the Falcon guidebook for the Nface route Sucks. err, well at least 'cuz we had to turn around halfway up the dome, due to fading light on 2-27-08.

CBS- you state 5.7+ in thread title but then say in your post pretty stiff for 5.7. Perhaps, you will realize what a "+" sign means now. Either way a great F'n route. Climbed it for the 4th time this Jan with my gf. She absoulutely loved the climb. The descent she felt was more difficult. Kelsay observing the park's topo and a view of the dome from parking lot Right around the crux prior to 1st belay. gotta love the water grove That reminds me of the first time I climbed it. We intended on climbing it by full moon. Well even tho the full moon was shinnin on the HV campground it sure wasn't moonbeaming us 3 on route. Damn hill. Oh well, nothing like scanning the cliff for bolts by headlamp...."Found one. climbing again." We did climb it in two pitches.