bwrts

rudy, I have no problem with those fuking mods fukin putting my fukin name, fukin address or even my fukin SS number in my title if they so fukin desire to be such fukin pansy assed beyotches! what that take like 30 posts for ole polish attitude to resurface like with mr agent orange? no offense taken Off.. the names are in order: my birth name and baptised middle names honoring my two grandfathers and my father... the sur name, well...that is a story for the ages. Matt, pin another medal on your chest as you are the ultimate-god of the cc.com.

my name is Benjamin William Robert Thomas Stanton = bwrts. someday I may change my profile to reflect this but now thinking twice I do not care nor want to care enuff to change it. If you want to further discuss this idiotic technicallity then please PM me. Rudy, bring it on beyotch! Inacan (tom) we need dirt on the clean cracks to further challenge us in getting up index cracks. can you please accomadate us and shovel off another ledge system? Please.

What?...in English And Ben, your new avatar took absolutely no time for myself, Rolf, Kurt, or Rudy to figure out, like 5 seconds! christ man, I was not trying to ellude anybody with my name. I am sorry matt that I have not MADE the TIME to be MORE descript for the masses. Your name is pretty non-descript too... I mean P could = pobst or phillips or poseur... give me a break man. Mark, you are very funny, I like it. Bolts next to cracks or anywhere should be debated. It is a hole in the stone that is filled with metal and left until a chopper steals it or mother nature removes it (Eg rust or falling rock). I have placed many bolts over the years...mostly in Leavenworth, where I learned to climb and where I still spend many hours of my life wasting time. Most all of my bolts are clearly placed for many human heights to reach (something RR always avoided to fuk over WH with...). I also have been very conscience of where gear placements are in relation to bolts. As many of you know Leavenworth has not-a-lot of continuous crack systems or splitters like the shield of outerspace. Consequently many of my 1-pitch routes are mixed climbs, or gear routes with occasional bolts (not ice/rock routes). TO say you need to make a route safe for others is true and not true. You can be selfish and bolt for yourself but that is really dumb. You don't own the rock. Yes you did have the initial vision but suppose bill/jane saw the line too and just got busy with other more important things in life. Then bill/jane heads to cliff to discover red tags on bolts. Oh well. Ask Beckey about being skunked by Serl on some last great peak in the Coast Mts. (Jordop was telling me the story last week....Imho one of the best canadian stories to spray about). So long in short. I will say K.I.S.S (cidiot) Bolts are an impact and you must choose wisely! OK now go back to work!! one more thing, Rudy when are we going to brawl on the index crack routes??!

Ben I thought you were going away. My view is that if the crux pitch of a route is 5.11 then bolts should be placed so that someone who leads at that grade will feel more or less comfortable. The hard pitches may require a number of bolts, but the 5.7 pitch leading to the hard bits should be run out. Also no bolts next to cracks that you can reasonably protect. I can see why Gorilla my dreams has bolts, and I can see why a pitch with thin expanding flakes might require bolts, but there's a ton of stuff out there that can be naturally protected yet it has bolts right next to cracks. kurt, your ability to dig into the bowels of cc.com is impressive, I guess. That was that dumb pollock szyjakowski who said that....now wasn't it? This is the new nicer me. Hold back the applause. "bwrts" is my initials so anyone who thinks I hide behind some dumb avatar name can take back that thought. "szyjakowski" was an old family name so whatever....and btw, you are right Kurt, I do care about how the rock and nature is mistreated by people who think they own the world and do whatever they think is right for them...ya know people kinda like the idiot in the whitehouse. Bolts next to cracks are gay and fukin pathetic. If you so feel the rock must be climbed even with hard to protect crack, then Top Rope the peyotch. Otherwise stick your drill up your ass and go home. Rudy===>> FO!!

Seems to me ryanl got out of bed and realized his mind was still sleeping so, just a little documenting of that point in his life... ah yeah, whatever!

now we are getting somewhere in this bantering typefest. Keep It Simple Stupid (cidiot) Words to fukin live by...

it is amazing no bouldererers lost their life in this creation. another cidiot asuming he is doing the world a favor. bad timing and very bad judgement.

Jens- Was he actually "shot at" or were the bullits just fired from above him? I also have never seen stuff fly off but I have seen the remnants. Once Kat and I hiked up to the top via trails during a hard rain. we ran into some local hick boys 4x4ing and pounding buds down faster than they could think. The leader was absolutely amazed that we could hike up to the same spot in about an hour. He really had no idea humans were capable of such feats. I told him we could race to the bar and he just smiled. Really I think most anybody on top tossing sheit down or being roudy most likely is just as oblivious to the fact that people are scaling the cliffs and hiking below. A nice fence might be a good idea, set back from the wall but passable for the awe-lookers...

also via notebook the 2nd harder root was on the thunderbolt (?) tower... that zeus mountain sure looks Godly nice, course a lot of things do from a seat in mike's longranger.

Classic for sure...I am impressed that mr inacan likes his new name so much that he uses it in the first photo. classic indeed. I am also amazed that this little bitty crack had to be retro-gardened in the middle of the summer and consequently ruined a bunch of climbers' day due to other party's selfishness. btw, the climbing does look fun but seriously is it really worth all the effort? I mean there is loads of clean rock all over the place...and don't give me the I don't have time rant.....climbing is a waste of time.

WOW, that is quite a list. I do look fwd to the report on what got done. I do not personally think Cannon is an easy, on the way out type climb. Dragontail and Colchuck are usually approached from Colchuck Lake. LA, MC and Prusik are best done from Viviane or Leprachan. Good luck and enjoy....

If you are crafty, a 60m rope works fine too. 70 would be more than a enough.

ooooohhhh, jello injected faults are cool!!!!!!!!!!

this route gets done every year, a few (or more) times I assume. I haven't got on it yet, but a bunch of my friends have done it and enjoyed it a ton.

Whhoooaaa....reconsider the heat stroke potential! If you must go out to the coulees, I would say consider going to the river instead... I was at the gorge (whitestripes and sleater kenny ) this past weekend and it was tshirt weather until 10pm.

Climbing is a SELFISH WASTE OF TIME and HUMAN ENERGY. I mean come-on, there is almost always an "easier" way up the stupid rock.

Yeah it is a good thing the LTW is not as close to the tracks as this lost crag. The climbing at Larabee in Bellingham could possibly meet this same fate if climbers there do not tread carefully.

he still climbs. I saw him last season at index but he was spraying about his new sprayskirt or something boat related.

serves us climbers right. now maybe all you wanks will realize climbing is a selfish waste of time. likewise realize that your actions good or bad, affect many many around you, all the time.... seriously sucks to lose a great area that includes perfect cracks...however, there are many perfect cracks all over the place.

no. unless you approach predawn or hike out before a bootpack.

which one smart guy!? there is a couple.......

I bet the chimney used to have more blocks/chockstones back in the day.... errr, well is could have...

yeah i heard i need some hangers... slip on style work? i found clint's website again thanks to minx...so don't worry about not giving up any beta. It's ALL GOOD.

any info on not fred beckeys???

i need some beta for the climbing there... please pm if you so desire to give me the heads up on gear and where the routes are located. TIA