kevbone

no, i got the next pitch which was 50m 10a no pro. Stroke, stroke, stroke.

Is that you?

There is HUUUGGGEEE field just outside the actual campground. It could hold 500 campers.

Stroke Stroke Stroke Stroke

Ant that the truth.

I would say if a route has a known runout with 30 foot whip (if you fall) and it is a hard route. Meaning climbers do fall. The route would probably see only a few accents: AKA hardman route!

Theres the love! I like you too!

What give SS. Wheres the love? You dont have to be an asshole.

Yeah, I bet when you run out of lube everyone gets pretty grouchy. I dont know, AKA brokeback!!!

No

Cool. I like candy. it'll be a candycaning Thats funny!

So good of you to drop in! My points are already explained.

What is your point?

Cool. I like candy.

I believe the FA has to right to do it how ever they please. Morals? Not sure! How many climbs have you ever come across ( all over the west coast ) that you wont climb because its scary and runout and is rates PG13 or R? I know I have run across theses routes. Well I don’t climb them, the same can be said for a well bolted routes. If you don’t like it, go climb something else. I respect the FA above all else!

I agree you may be blamed for what ever. But it does give you the right to tell the folks blaming you to fuck off and go climb something else.

What, are you quiting the outdoor lifestyle? Or did you rob your local store? What gives?

Dude, as long as you’re touching unclimbed rock. The sky is open for your interpretation. This is coming from someone who has put up and been a part of about 50 routes, mostly mixed climbing. The trick here is to not bolt cracks. The real sticky part is making sure the gear is good. I know some who say if you can get “any” gear in, its gear. Where other definition of gear is “would it hold a ten foot fall”? If not then its not gear. So then you have to make a decision. Bolt or no bolt. Either way if you are first accentionist and do try your darnest to do it right. Then everybody else can fuck off. If you don’t like it, go climb something else. Putting up a route is like a piece of art. You do it how you see fit! Not everybody likes others artwork. I know some will disagree. However; we as climbers have to respect the first accentionists! We have to respect our forefathers, respect the people who came before us. This would include sport routes. I am tired of the old argument. Climbers wanting to retro a scary runout climb. and complain about it “its scary and hard and you may get hurt. And the Crack heads state “if you don’t like it go climb something else.” Well I through that shit right back at you. If you don’t like how I bolted “my route, my art work” when I was the first person to clean, then you can go climbe elsewhere! Just my thoughts

Yeah, sharp eye segall, hurah, you can read.

Ask Olyclimber, hasnt he climbed everything.

Cant wait to meet all of you!

You hang out with Jim to much!

You know, walking with the balls..... CJ... ssssshhhhh