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untilFinding Creating Expression in Climbing - Nathan HadleyThis Great White Buffalo slideshow is Thursday, March 29th at the West Wall Bar downstairs at The Seattle Bouldering Project.Nathan Hadley will give a talk about the challenge of discovering creative expression through the act and art of climbing. The topic will range from challenging climbs across the world to route setting to capturing the essence of adventure through photography. Doors at 7pm, show at 8pm. FREEThere will be a raffle from Arc'teryx Seattle, and $1 beers from Firestone Walker Brewing Co. with proceeds going to our local climbing advocacy group the Washington Climbers Coalition!
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chugging along, more fixed:
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Rolling...more fixed. These TRs are treasure and you should appreciate them:
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I am unbelievable stoked about this "project". Dan is a humble and good dude. I was so bummed about his TRs being messed up due to that image hosting site. Thank jeebus for the Way Back Machine! I'm going to keep at this till everyone of his TRs are restored. The most prolific and imaginative alpine skier this site has ever seen (and there have been some DUDES....Sky and Ross, etc )...curious if historically there is anyone to touch what he has done.
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Do you have a favorite pre-2013 Dan Helmstadter where the photos aren't showing up? http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/profile/24033-danhelmstadter/?do=content&type=forums_topic&change_section=1 link one here...there are number to fix, so let me know if there is one i should fix sooner. I think around 2013 or so he switched to Flickr, so those ones are fine.
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best of cc.com [TR] Black Peak - NW face 5/19/2012
olyclimber replied to danhelmstadter's topic in the *freshiezone*
Done! Photos restored! Any memories here @danhelmstadter and @lunger ? If you haven't read this one and looked at the pictures yet, I recommend it. -
best of cc.com [TR] Mt. Shuksan - Curtis Ridge 3/25/2012
olyclimber replied to danhelmstadter's topic in the *freshiezone*
Another TR saved thanks to images plucked from the Wayback Machine! -
[TR] Lincoln Peak - x couloir (2nd descent) 7/8/2012
olyclimber replied to danhelmstadter's topic in the *freshiezone*
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With a little work I was able to get the images out of the Wayback Machine. I think Dan's account on that image hosting site is gone...and there are other TRs with images on that same hosting service with the same issue. Thanks @G-spotter for nominating this one, and @JasonG for the challenge. And of course.... @danhelmstadter for the TR!
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Applauding risk acceptance beyond your own limits
olyclimber replied to glassgowkiss's topic in Climber's Board
It is very possible I'm reading too much into what Bob is saying. It just doesn't sit well with me when I think of the people I know that have passed while climbing, and to have someone pass judgement on them like that. and all the situations you list make total sense to me. But I also think there are other situations other than what you list. -
Applauding risk acceptance beyond your own limits
olyclimber replied to glassgowkiss's topic in Climber's Board
Well Bob, good for you for providing data...but I don't see it backing up your 99% number. 7% falling rock, ice, or object. it doesn't classify it as "a bad decision"...just a bad outcome. it could be related to a bad decision, but could it not also be random. 4.3% illness. Is getting ill a bad decision? Under certain circumstances, it could be, but not all. 11.3% slip on snow or ice...it says nothing about a bad decision other than the outcome. It could be because of simple bad luck...a good climber tripping is not a "bad decision". People don't "decide to trip". 39.4% people "decided" to slip fall or slip on rock. Of course in all of these there are factors...factors that could be the result of a bad decision. Or they could just be a bit of bad luck. Those charts don't tell you that, however. So what you're saying is 99% of the time people make a mistake of deciding to get out of bed. yeah...you don't really have point in my book about 99% being bad decisions unless you're talking about leaving your home as a decision. And there are definitely some listed on that chart that fall under "bad decision". I just don't see that number being 99%. Inadequate equipment, not placing pro, placing pro in the wrong spot, exceeding abilities....now those are "bad decisions". I guess if by decision you mean "mistake"...like you consider tripping to be a decision...then I guess that works! -
Applauding risk acceptance beyond your own limits
olyclimber replied to glassgowkiss's topic in Climber's Board
yes i'm just saying there is a continuum by which we judge how bad a decision is, and usually we only call it bad if an accident happens...at least on the less risky side of that continuum. sometimes getting out of bed in the morning seems like a bad idea. by painting it as black and white, he's making it seem like 99% of the people who get into accidents made terrible decisions, when many "bad" decisions are only bad if they don't work out for you. like climbing a mountain at all...its very rewarding experience if you're successful, good. but if you attempt and get hurt, what "an idiot, what did you risk it all you adrenaline freak"!, bad. This applies to the Tooth. This applies to some crazy new alpine 5.14. It depends who is in the armchair. Remember the comments we got from the world at large when the Hood climbers went missing? "Y" symbol??? of course there is the end of the continuum where its a just a terrible decision, even suicidal. but its a continuum...its not black and white. and where risks taken sit on that continuum often depend on a lot of information those judging from the armchair often do not have. so i think Bob could be a little less "judgey" about things. but i'm not going to ask him to be who he isn't, so there is that. -
Applauding risk acceptance beyond your own limits
olyclimber replied to glassgowkiss's topic in Climber's Board
Are you going to back that up with some data that supports that statistic? Not that its super meaningful, since I guess you could say taking up a sport that has any risk at all was a "bad decision". More like it was a "decision"....99% of accidents are the direct result of a series of decisions. Bad or good? There is a huge continuum that you're not mentioning. But I guess we're talking about accidents, so from the armchair they are all "bad". And bad luck? Duh. What are we talking about again? -
i bet all your action figures are cherry
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Ryan didn't share any TRs here, but he did have a pretty good contribution to the Random Climbing Partners thread (best of cc.com):
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Ryan's blog: http://akalpinist.blogspot.com/